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With the emergence of Digital Imaging, development of the now eclipsed film based SLR cameras has paused. The quality and convenient work flow of excellent digital equipment was made affordable for advanced users by the middle of the first decade of our Twenty-first Century. Offering excellent equipment of style and substance over the last half century, Pentax developed a huge pool of faithful SLR camera followers. From its series of time-honored classic Manual Focus bodies, such as the K, KM, and KA mount models, with almost three decades of cult-like devotion to its first true professional system camera--the great PENTAX LX professional SLR camera onward to achieving loyalties stimulated from user-sensitive auto focus camera designs: Pentax has earned a renowned place for Pentax system advocates' great expectations.

The Japanese camera industry recognized that Pentax had emerged as a true professional systems camera maker with the LX: as established from its overbuilt robust mechanisms; broadest of accurate range integral light meters (reading right up to the point of shutter closing through extremely long exposure readings); TTL flash measured off the film plane; full motor drive capacities; many viewfinder options; available extended system components; placed as extended in hand excellent hand-to-eye coordination ergonomics; orchestrated best possible shutter construction composition and lifespan; and well-developed lens system options. Great expectations then became a Pentax legacy, as with the other Japanese 35 mm system leaders well employed systems cameras.

After the LX stopped production, in the last years of the last century, and through special releases leading into 2000, the first question which arose in Pentax users' minds (as digital photography eclipsed film photography) was how would Pentax digital camera SLR offerings measure up to the LX?

Though consumer DSLR designs came forth from Pentax since 2003, only since the 2007 award-winning K10D, presented in 2006, has this question begun to be adequately answered. Thereby trusting Pentax total system reliability once more, advanced users returned to Pentax. With the 2008 release of the K20D instant classic, a unique imaging origination sensor developed of an engineering partnership with the Korean Samsung electronics conglomerate addressed the haunting optics image rendering CA error factors of past CCD sensor based DSLR images. The lens tests posted from past CCD sensor based Pentax DSLRs are corrected in large measure by the new CMOS K20D SLR imaging sensor. This Image Quality development accompanied ongoing planned Pentax DA professional series dust resistant optics true-to-format lens releases for advanced user requirements. Pentax has shown a commitment to the careful consideration of advanced user best interests by proving its long term DSLR systems goals since 2006.

The body design in particular, of the K10D and K20D, is to be coveted for its staunch photography-enabling presence in all environments. Pentax DSLR Body weather and dust seals are improved even over the LX classic film camera, as upgraded along with the K20Ds long life shutter, large 2.7 inch viewscreen, programmable user friendly technical options, on-camera dual RAW selections, in-camera RAW to JPEG or TIFF transfers, a wide range of JPEG quality options, hand reachable quick shooting mode change features, full information Pentaprism viewfinder, live-view and video out features, metal alloy body and stainless steel core, rugged camera finish, available flash systems, optional battery pack with second shutter release feature, unique editorial use JPEG 1.6MB render 21 fps high burst rate, and color constancy, noise reduction, and sharpness adjustment in camera processing. Horizontal and Vertical in-camera shake reduction is improved over the K10D (allowing the hand held use of many long lenses without special in lens focus motors or image stabilization), as are the dual dust removal and on sensor flagging for sensor cleaning alert systems. At 14.1 MP this camera IQ (Image Quality) outshines the competition in this pricerange, easily approaching the 3 to 6 times higher priced other manufacturer professional grade systems (in early 2008). These developments, from Pentax, represent DSLR systems classic camera foundations. There are other models too for price and hand size consideration. Kudos to Pentax. If your desire is to dispose of your Pentax cameras or their accompanying accessories and/or you are looking for a used model (or even for any of Pentax DSLR system components), please use a separate section of our PIM MIR-provided photographic sites, as is offered for a higher traffic volume for this purpose; please use the
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1. From : Alex (alex@2mediastudio.com)
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Date : 05:38 AM Monday 21 October, 2013

Test from technical team , please ignore


2. From : Jay (jaych.1@juno.com)
Url : http://
Date : 06:09 AM Sunday 27 November, 2011

It is established that the K-5 has the most adventure adaptive DSLR camera, along with a savvy sensor, while granting a user ultimate control over its rendering choices. Competition to this reality too is established in nonmirrored system digital cameras. The lens line is admirable, though limited compared with Canon, Nikon, and now, even Sony. Yet the quality of the K-5 soars over even the old legendary film camera system of the LX.

Pentax simply did not do what the signs of the times require to market professional and semiprofessional camera systems. The KX and Kr have sold consistently well, but the K-7, and now far superior K-5 have failed to establish a viable market share. Reestablish the full metering capacity of say the MZ (ZX) 3 and 5n--to take all lenses with electronic contacts, and the earlier K and M series mechanical metering transfers to the camera body, while maintaining open aperture metering, and the market share challenge would begin to shift.

How a line interfaces with stores, markets, and their opportunities to obtain credit and deals for maintaining broad camera system lines has to be addressed by the new Pentax Richo Corporation. Deal with the marketing side of system opportunity survival and innovation and the line will re-emerge as one of the top four. OLYMPUS has not come out with a new DSLR beyond the one of a few years back, and seems to be going for nonreflex choices to maintain its market share. What will Pentax Richo do to create market share?


3. From : Jay (jaych.1@juno.com)
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Date : 11:25 AM Tuesday 04 January, 2011

The K-5 has radically improved HD video, dynamic range, low light focus, and burst speeds. It is now par with the industry leaders on handling noise vs. sharpness, with user selectable choices. Building on the concept of a wide range of difficult weather tolerance, it is a welcomed K mount line leader.

The availability of used Pentax lenses with existing data transfer contacts is slowing down as the newer lenses meter up in price, and technology advances. DP review has the heads up promise of the K-5 well in their highest recommendation sights. If we only could persuade the Photozone forum to move to this body and upgrade their lens tests from the 10MP K-10, as is the case with other manufacturers there, we might have a reference for present manufactured lenses imaging quality with the Pentax system.


4. From : Jay (jaych.1@juno.com)
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Date : 11:32 AM Wednesday 17 March, 2010

Pentax has announced other digital cameras and formats with user controllable settings being now manufactured. These include 2?X zoom 12+MP cameras, and waterproof cameras with wide to narrow zooms of a useful range beyond the usual 3X optical point and shoots. Canon still holds the quality edge over other manufacturers in these kinds of lines, but the Pentax waterproof zoom for advanced users is innovative indeed.

The big news is the 6X4.5 CM digital body, with 40MP for under $10,000, as will now be test marketed in Japan (about a third of the Mamiya like sized sensor camera price). Depending on the demand and world economy, it should be brought into Asia and the EU markets next, in 2011, or at this year's end. This is the likely professional studio and field camera to watch for careful users who do not require long telephotos for quicker results in natural settings.

Will MIR permit further development of this site as to setting up current advanced users blog interaqtions beyond this beta site mode? I now have other contributors interested in helping cobuild this site.


5. From : impaimiastory (adggt6g@aol.co.uk)
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Date : 08:35 AM Wednesday 17 March, 2010

Hello All i am new here, just though i would say hello. I hope i can help out on this forum.
Thanks.


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Date : 05:37 AM Wednesday 17 March, 2010

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7. From : Jay (jaych.1@juno.com)
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Date : 05:19 AM Sunday 20 September, 2009

I hope to put further development efforts into this site this winter, soon on us. The Pentax K-7 has been innovative in many ways, some features of which are copied and surpassed into the new Canon D7 (including some control locations, dynamic range adjustments, etc.). It is clearly established then that the APS-C format will be an arena of great competition and technological advancements for the handholdable DSLR challenge.

Unlike Canon, Pentax has developed an almost complete lens line for this format. Advantages are weight, optical excellence (for the most part), K mount backward lens compatablity, newer and DA* lenses with weather seals wet weather and dust resistance, carrythrough of an on camera sensor based image stabilization system, vs. Canon's more expensive in lens per lens image stabilization (both work), etc. The new K-7 also adjusts for some abberations inherent in some APS-C wide angle lens designs, has a sensor orientation adjustment override mechanism, offers dynamic range compensation between tonal areas in a scene, increased weather resistance and hand holdability (though the use of a tripod in most photography is always recommended for best results with any camera). The K-7 is sharper than the Canon D-50 in image processing in camera default preferences, but more noise is then seen in its higher ISO ranges. However, this can be adjusted out comparatively with Pentax menu overrides for any user image preferences. Pentax is setup for a bit more visible noise, allowing more detail sharpness, as are the trade off factors of image processing in the digital camera system.

Canon announced an 18MP sensor; what are the trade offs between this and the Pentax 14.6MP sensor besides 3.4MP(with the Pentax sensor Samsung made, with a new image processor on board for faster light reading, and a good fps rate)? Canon had to go with two onboard sensor processors to increase the FPS burst rate up to 8, and to achieve HD movie results, over Pentax's 5.?, and their own prior 6.? fps rate. Both have the same top shutter speed. Unless you are a very high speed subject motion photographer this difference is not important. Both have 30fps HD video, with Canon slightly higher in one pixel measurement on the horizontal. But side by side comparisons of resulting imagery will need to be made for the purposes of the choices for videography end use. Both have both HDTV types offered, and lesser motion photography resolutions. The Canon is a fourth again more expensive, and offers the smoothest gradiations in this format size, but the body is on the large size.

I cannot help but note that the D7 was a Canon response to the K-7, in near body sfeatures (About the size of the K20D) and with some advanced user design features and functions. The K-7 though is built for greater all weather use, cold and hot, and has the fully sealed full metal jacket approach to these challenges. See Digital Photography Review, camera system section, for User Assessments of image quality and hands on use of the K-7 camera: excellent!. The D7 is yet to be rated. I suspect the K-7 will grant longer battery life just because of the two processor approach and larger pixel count of the D7. Image quality of the K-7, by user ratings, is excellent.

Whatever the next generation of Pentax DSLR will offer, the present one is outstanding and equips for nothing but wonderful user results. For US$ 600.00 less than the Canon body, as built for greater active outdoor contact use, and with the 14.6 MP sensor image enlarging well to massive prints (and offering greater sensor microlens light gathering ability) with a more approachable lens system the Pentax is still the runner ahead for many applied outdoor photography uses (lenses are less expensive and, like the body, lighter in weight too, as are very well built in most instances). This competition will be a close one to watch. Canon offers more extreme telephoto lens range possibilities currently (at great cost), Pentax smaller and lighter lenses in comparative lens ranges as are made OEM available. This then turns the Pentax field photography extreme telephoto lens user to third party offers at this time. The Pentax DA* 300mm f4, the equivalent of a 450mm in the 35mm format, is an excellent optic, what else is available for wildlife uses? Check out the latest DA* zoom optics.

Canon says it based its new camera design on real photographer use input surveys. The Pentax K-7 already incorporates 95% of the results of those surveys a half year prior to the Canon D7 release. Pentax designers too mentioned photographer inputs as to developing the field use body design equippage. Pentax system designers then could be said to have real photography users system design intuition, Canon the need to catch up and reinnovate at the time of the K-7 body release. Pentax still excells over Nikon APS-C body offerings in many ways, along with Canon. Image quality comparisons will occur once the digital review sites have all three top APS-C smaller models in hand.

These three companies moved away from the larger APS-C DSLR past offer body designs to more graspable bodies with their latest generations of certain DSLRs. Nikon intelligently shifted to smaller bodies, CMOS sensors, and image quality onboard processing adjustments, though at a lesser MP size result than either competitor. Only these three companies offer the lens quality needed for the advanced users in this format size. Sony lens reviews, for the most part, have been disappointing. Pentax does not currently offer a full 35mm size sensor body, like Canon, Sony, and Nikon, but, as the US Publication Popular Photography established in the spring: there is no distinct system advantage to such an imaging system approach or cost base at this time: as to image output quality, uses, and needs. FPS rates too are faster with APS-C bodies, cost basis by cost basis.

Certainly the larger format 6X6.45 CM bodies do and will hold some imaging advantages for studio use with upwards to 50MP sensor output results. Even so, it is like the old arguments between what is practical for advanced user field and location work vs. studio work from the film format days, as to which system is truly "professional". When digital imaging took over publication work in the early 2000's most publication imaging quality fell, even with some showing visible image artifacts. Now this has reoriented toward image quality which the APS-C sensor outputs of 12MP and above adequately address. It is only primarily the fashion and architecture magazines, and very large coffee table publications that require the finite detail of the larger format approach to digital imaging. In this economy these markets have fallen off.

So, here we are at the latter end of the shift by most to a digital imaging use decade: with firm placement of Pentax equipment in the Advanced DSLR Users mix. Pentax has pledged to continue to develop a field user weather and optical tools stress demand advantage approach to the challenge. We can expect most PENTAX professional grade optics to continue to develop with HS in lens focus motors, weather seals, front element coatings present for the outdoor challenge, and build qualities second to none. Currently Pentax offers the best all weather choice.

Photographers here can also petition for longer lenses than the present special order FA 600mm, or go with Tamron and Sigma offers. The Tamron 200 to 500 mm and Sigma 120 to 400mm seem to be very good, at the least useable at high shutter speeds and on monopods, and the Sigma 100 to 300 mm F4 has proven excellent. Any longer lens is strictly limited to field tripod use, as can be these optics so used to increase their image quality results. Sigma offers HSM and other stabilization criteria for their teleoptics, and has, in recent years developed lens coatings for the purposes of DSLR sensor wavelength capture optimization. It is likely the first such new Pentax long lens design, perhaps a 150 to 450mm, will be on the Hoya Pentax designer table in 2010.

The Pentax designed Tokina ATX series optics, using Hoya glass, now in the Pentax DA line with slightly different bodies, have sold well for the Canon and Nikon APS-C camera lines. These well proven optics, built for the long run, reveal a Pentax Design professional presence throughout the APS-C Advanced Users DSLR world. They are considered among the best professional lenses available, even exceeding these OEMs offerings in certain instances.

Our fall Pentax DSLR Guestbook will offer advanced users a forum for achieving the best possible imaging results, and field use experts' advice for the Advanced Users of this wonderful digital imaging format camera system.


8. From : Jay (jaych.1@juno.com)
Url : http://
Date : 03:53 AM Tuesday 18 August, 2009

I am leaving the LX Guestbook to move over to this site and it's future commitments, for personal input time needs, current imaging relationships, commercial imaging networking etc. We hope the other LX site facilitators will look in to manage input there from time to time. --Jay


9. From : Jay (jaych.1@juno.com)
Url : http://
Date : 04:39 AM Friday 22 May, 2009

As for Optio series issues, I would suggest directly contacting the distributor in your country of origin. In the USA, for example, Pentax has a toll free long distance number. On the Pentaximaging.com site further is found a free interlink Pentax software download for the Windows Vista OS working with Pentax software.

It is now our goal to be out of beta on this site when the K-7 hits the market place at the later end of July. Look for changes on the intro pages on the development of the Pentax DSLRs and at the banner intro of this forum.


10. From : Jay (jaych.1@juno.com)
Url : http://
Date : 04:34 AM Friday 22 May, 2009

FANTASTIC! Flight metal K-7, with the 14.6 MB best to date APS-C proven IQ CMOS sensor size and micro lenses layer for HR light capture updated for color, bandwidth, and electron quick output (outresolves all slide film for its format size). Its patented layer sensor image sharpening design offers the greatest light resolution in its class--and now more. Updated new 4 channel output for quicker in camera image processing to the new processor, greater color sensitivity and thoroughput, and new sensor rotational and, user mechanical composition adjustments for in camera sensor (employed too for the shake reduction improvements in this body). New dust elimination system, along with some K20D dust reduction features (e.g. dust mapping is improved0. No prior buggy electron "leaks" into black areas of a captured scene which rendered an occasional white dot).

READ THIS: 5+ FPS; compact magnesium alloy body (over stainless, like an airplane skin over its skeleton); 3" High Resolution TFT dot screen with output adjustment; dust, moisture and cold sealed for extreme field uses (along with the DA MR AND DA* sealed lenses offering environmental defense); Prime II processor engine (1/8000 sec., high speed capture, HD movie capture); 77 segmented meter; real time live view, with selectable grid, histogram, and more (can determine subject values in real time, and then shoot stills or video); 100% of view in viewfinder and for live view; HDMI Output; HD for 2 movie modes in widescreen, and not (plus a third non HD mode); High Def Screen; HD wall screen output ready; mirror lock-up; near the shutter button ISO button; dynamic range control feature; compensation settings for highlight and shadows, on and on and on! See http://www.pentaximaging.com/slr/K-7/.

Pricing, the same list price as when the K20D was introduced [many felt it could be twice as much]. The K20 now selling for just over 50%+ of that original price is truly a deal for someone not needing video or high FPS features. Now in a preorder status, the K-7 is a very serious system camera. It will be Christmas before we see much of a discount, and late July before stores are firstly stocked in NA and the EU. This K Mount is KAF2 with backward lens capability (plus can use KAF3 as well).

Now is the time for all good photographers to come to the system commitment support of Hoya/Pentax! Let's REWARD THIS VIABLE PARTNERSHIP for hearing and responding to K mount system users with the cutting edge needs of all advanced photographers in mind. This stands with accompanying excellent rated optics in all current classes & now too with its radically improved AF (with low light color temperature wavelength sensing in the AF mix now with the leading time in low light quick focus), improved noise reduction achieves higher ISO stability, new white balance and color filtration options, high FPS even in RAW due to sensor/processor combo, battery life is up, 100% field of view viewfinder & mirror lock-up [grant the Professionals long lens delight], Live View with scene tone information mode, past image adjustments settings via rotational dial, and screen menus with two new modalities for such (there were five prior), relocation of most buttoned functions, with new low light happy contrast AF, Face Detection, and optional histogram, grid on screen, and bright/dark area user compensation on high res Display which allows you to quickly compose your images without having to position your eye against the viewfinder (though you need to go back and forth between these to get to full information for shooting), can make highlight and shadow detail dynamics choices, has a secure electronic leveling function (better than tripod bubble levels), now offers the industry leading Dynamic Range setting, AF lenses (DFA forward) distortion correction, etc. etc. etc. For on camera data handling, Professional user choices: the ability to designate files, embed your copyright information in the accompanying picture data, and coordinate the output for such workflow file delivery. Buy an SD wireless card to go total post modern workflow remote.

Buy a separate SD wireless card and download to your tote wirelessly enabled PC or wirelessly available portable drive in the field. 14M 4672x3104, 10M 3936x2624, 6M 3072x2048, 2M 1728x1152; Movie (resolution/FPS): 1280x720p30, 1536x1024p30, 640x416p30; 3.0 TFT IPS (In Plane Switching) color LCD with brightness/color adjustment and AR coating; Resolution - 921,000 dots; much better color and sharpness than the Canon D-50; Wide angle viewable; Power source: Rechargeable Li-Ion battery D-LI90, D-BG4 Battery Grip (optional) for second D-LI90 battery or 6X AA batteries; Recordable images: Approx 980 (approx 740 w/ 50% flash, CIPA); Playback time: Approx 440 min; AC adapter available;Sensitivity range: EV 0 to 21; Still: RAW (PEF, DNG, to TIFF), JPG (Exif 2.21), DCF 2.0 (design rule for camera file system), DPOF, Print Image Matching III; Movie (compression): AVI (Motion JPG); Sensor-shift Shake Reduction with rotational compensation (4 stops max);, verifications via viewfinder and top LCD panel; Body dimensions (W x H x D): 5.1 x 3.8 x 2.9 (even SMALLER than Olympus, for a so-called midrange DSLR system camera. Pros will buy and use this camera, for sure; I will use its varied options with joy.).

Body weight, without battery or removable memory - 22.9 oz, Loaded and ready - 26.5 oz; Construction material(s): Magnesium alloy shell over stainless steel chassis permits operating temperature: 14-104F (-10 to 40C); Multi-segment: 77 segments, Center weighted, Spot, exposure compensation: +/- 5 EV (1/3 and 1/2 steps), exposure lock, exposure bracketing: 3 or 5 frames, up to +/- 2 EV (1/2 or 1/3 steps); Ports: USB 2.0 hi-speed, AV out, HDMI out, DC in, cable switch, 3.5mm stereo microphone jack (the only such found on DSLRs just now; Video out: HD (1080i30, 720p30, 480p30), NTSC, PAL; internal flash, external flash system sync sockets (for studio units and on camera units); Printer interfaces: n/a; Mode selection: Single, Continuous (Hi, Lo), Manual, Self-Timer (12s, 2s), Remote (0s, 3s, continuous), AF assist lamp, Bracketing (standard, timer, remote), shutter operation standard, remote, HDR Capture, Multi-Exposure, Dial and user determined exposure programming types (37 functions), Interval Continuous FPS 5.2 specs are well established by need(40 JPG Continuous Hi, 15 RAW PEF, 14 RAW DNG) 3.3 FPS (unlimited JPG Continuous Lo, 17 RAW PEF/DNG), Self-timer: (12s, 2s), Remote control: infrared (0s, 3s, continuous) and cable switch.

Still image Quality levels: **** Premium, *** Best, ** Better, * Good; Improved Dust Removal and seals - Supersonic vibration to low pass filter.
The new sensor is in every aspect more precise and adjustable.

SO, we predict here a massive migration to Pentax by those who find the body fitting the hand with a similar feel to the LX! Field and wedding photographers can offer video clips as well as stills from the same point of view. Judging from the IQ of the DA 300* f4, and emerging DA* zooms in all ranges, many with HS focus motors: watch out top two for the blue Pentax horizon! Finally, a merger of having a company act together, on time and capable functions with bells and whistles, and ergonomics which lead the industry. All this is the result of a maker merger, and an on time design philosophy, as well as a meeting of minds with those of Pentax system loyalty persuasion. With greater temperature operating range, and more seals than the LX or K20D, we predict that this will become a Pentax cult camera!

Notice how quickly this came out after a little more than a year of the K20D entering the market, which still is a very good still average FPS driven camera. Both are rugged companions to the field challenges of outdoor photographers. The K-7, now with industry leading low light AF will bring the system inside for new professionals joining the system. It seems the new design strategy to be on time, and with the functions necessary is now in the forefront of the Hoya/Pentax mindset. --Jay


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