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EOS-1 Series is Canon's flagship camera model which uses the autofocus EF/EOS system as the backbone. The Series which comprised of the original EOS-1 has evolved to the present EOS-1v (film based) to EOS-1D (Digital based) which widely acclaimed as the most used professional camera right now at the professional user's market. Here is a common Message Board designed specifically for Canon EOS-1 Series SLR model which aims for common support and sharing mutual knowledge among users. Hope fully it will see its worth in time to come.

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1. From : Co-Moderator Gary Rowan Higgins (Australia) (nomail@encable.net.au)
Url : http://tinyurl.com/gcx2k
Date : 05:35 AM Tuesday 19 September, 2006

Question from J. Norton: Can someone tell which EOS Film cameras can use infared film? I'm looking into the old 650 or 620. Did this models have the infared film counters? Thanks - J. Norton (jeffsnap@aol.com).
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The Canon EOS 1N, EOS 1V and other pro-level cameras can use infrared film due to their sprocket advance mechanism and well-constructed backs. As you point out, the infrared film counters will cause a sausage-shaped fog on the lower edge of IR film.

Infrared frame counters are a feature on the EOS 100/Elan, EOS 5/A2/E, EOS 50/E/Elan, IIE, EOS 500/Rebel X/S and EOS 5000. Additionally, the camera back must also be opaque enough to be IR-leakproof. With the exception of the sturdily built pro-level models, this is not so in many consumer model EOS cameras.

—garyh

2. From : Co-Moderator Gary Rowan Higgins (Australia) (nomail@encable.net.au)
Url : http://tinyurl.com/gcx2k
Date : 05:50 AM Friday 15 September, 2006

Question from Angel Tellez Jr: I need a user manual for my Canon K2. Can anyone help to download it for free? Thank you kindly, Angel Tellez Jr (portraitsbyangel@pacbell.net)
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Sorry, but I have not been successful in tracking down a free manual, but I did find the following (all EOS camera manuals) on eBay. Undoubtedly it's a big overkill as you want only one manual, for the Elan K2:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-EOS-FD-User-Manual-Archive-w-Service-Repair-2_W0QQitemZ7522244561QQihZ017QQcategoryZ67363QQcmdZViewItem

3. From : Co-Moderator Gary Rowan Higgins (Australia) (nomail@encable.net.au)
Url : http://tinyurl.com/gcx2k
Date : 05:19 AM Friday 15 September, 2006

Question from Patrick Haug: How can I determine the year/date of manufactur of my eos 1n? Can the production # or serial # on the camera tell me this? rgds Patrick Haug (haugpm@chevron.com)
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Over the past 20 years one would curiously see various different numbers on Canon camera bodies. There was once a 'formula' for determining the meaning of serial numbers, such as factory number/location, production run/batch and year but such formula—if ever it was useful—seems to have passed into folklore. It has never been of interest to me, sufficient to say that I've always made sure the serial number matches the box and Canon records when registering warranty, checks that all purchasers should make of *all* photographic equipment irrespective of origin, but very particularly purchases made on eBay.

Recently, a number of pro-level Canon digital cameras have been found in New Zealand with altered serial numbers; that is, the original serial number has been proficiently abraded off and a new, forged number, assigned. The forgery was uncovered during repairs to the digital SLRs at Canon repair facilities: technicians routinely cross-checked with Canon's manufacturing base in Japan and found "serious anomalies". This surprising development has given rise to increased surveillance by Customs of photographers' equipment entering and leaving New Zealand.

In the light of that, it is probably best we do not know what the numbers mean (known only to Canon), lest criminals will get an idea of how to "rebirth" stolen cameras for overseas markets, such as what could well be happening in New Zealand. —garyh

4. From : Co-Moderator Gary Rowan Higgins (Australia) (nomail@encable.net.au)
Url : http://tinyurl.gcx2k
Date : 02:19 PM Thursday 31 August, 2006

Question from Arnold Gonzalez:
"I am looking for a operators manuel for a Canon EOS ELAN 2 E or whare i can find one - Arnold Gonzalez
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Arnold, An html (web-based) instruction manual for the EOS Elan IIe (aka Canon EOS 50/50E)can be found here: http://eosdoc.com/manuals/body/ElanII/ Hard copy instruction manuals for discontinued EOS cameras can be difficult to come by. —garyh

5. From : Co-Moderator Gary Rowan Higgins (Australia) (nomail@encable.net.au)
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Date : 06:27 AM Thursday 31 August, 2006

Question from Chew Min Tzer:
Hi everyone, I am a Canon user. I have an EOS630 and an EOS10 body with 6 Canon lenses. I am thinking for an upgrade to EOS-1n but local film stores are selling less and less films nowadays. Do you think it is a wise decision to get the EOS-1n now? Since the EOS-1n has been discontinued for a number of years, is that a possibility of short of spare parts? I phoned up Canon and they said the EOS-1V has been long discontinued too? - Chew Min Tzer (chewmintzer@maybank.com.my)
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Chew,
I personally think it is an extraordinarily unwise move that film cameras are being discontinued, as it is a nod to the traditional form of photography being usurped by computers, thus, it can be implied that we cannot enjoy "traditional" photography unless we have a computer, such is the way digital is proceeding! Personally, I am most ill at ease entrusting precious images to a computer.

Having said that, digital will replace film, it is just a matter of time and maturity of the technology. Yes, stockists are paring down their supply of film, in the hope that you will dump it and set the cash registers ringing as you migrate to the "cash cow" that is a shiny digital camera. If you use transparency film, there should be no noticeable shortage, with Fujifilm still churning out Velvia, Provia and other professional-grade transparency stock.

At the moment, a Canon EOS1N, which was discontinued in 2000 with the arrival of the EOS 1V, is fine for experienced photographers who know how to 'knead' the characteristics of film to get just the right results from it. Millions of the 1N were manufactured and I can guarantee that millions are still in service and being repaired—where such a brutally tough camera needs it.

I am not aware the EOS 1V has been "long discontinued". Sadly, in the capricious, watering eyes of an all-digital world, a high-end film camera no longer has the allure and lustre up against the immediacy and convenience of "new age" digital capture. Film cameras are now, slowly, falling into a niche market of collectors, specialist imaging professionals (eg. such as those who 'blow out' contrasts for mood and effect etc.,) or those requiring the proven reliability of film in severe conditions (eg. Antarctica) — all of whom can be said to have little faith in, or no facilitation for, digital colour reproduction and post-production methodology — meaning the wholesale involvement of a computer for managing imaging from start to finish. Remember there are many millions of people around the world who do not have (or wish to have) a computer as their only dependent gateway to realising their photography. Can you not wonder what it's like to be sitting at a computer for 9+ hours a day working through hundreds, possibly thousands of images? Is that what you want to do for the rest of your working life? There is a big, wide wonderful world out there and guaranteed, a computer isn't going to lead you by the hand and take you to smell the roses.

I have no hesitation in siding with you in your wish to own an EOS 1N or EOS 1V, both of which have a lot to offer you in terms of the science of exposing film — the true ideal of visualising your work by seeing with the camera, not just through it.

—garyh

6. From : Co-Moderator Gary Rowan Higgins (Australia) (nomail@encable.net.au)
Url : http://tinyurl.com/gcx2k
Date : 05:42 PM Monday 28 August, 2006

From Basil Forsyth: My Canon EOS 1NRS has some sort of fungus growing in the view finder, focusing screen & the two lens (75-300mm IS, & 35 - 105mm)i have. I would like some ideas as regards getting rid of the fungus. This is such an annoyance to me. I love my camera and added to that it cost me a pretty penny to purchase. - Basil (forsyth_basil@hotmail.com)
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Basil,
I am sorry to learn of this. Fungi and mould occur when the camera and/or lens(es) have seen use or stored in warm humid environments ie. tropical locations and not given extended time to completely dry out. Sometimes the visible mould masks more extensive infection elsewhere within the camera. The locations you have specified: viewfinder, focusing screen and so forth indicate a localised presence and I am hoping it is not too more serious than that. The fact that the infestation is also found in your lenses means that you need to seriously look at a likely problem with the storage environment.

As awful as it can sound, I know, your best choice for your obviously expensive investment is to have the camera examined and if necessary, overhauled by Canon. Note that the focusing screen in the EOS1N RS is not user-interchangeable. The same advice for professional servicing is given to Canon's early 75-300mm f4.5-5.6 IS tele-zoom and 35-105mm zoom. Because of the complexity of disassembly and re-assembly, the servicing of lenses — particularly the complex zooms — can be a much more expensive undertaking.

Sometimes specialised fumigation of the camera in a controlled environment will provide some degree of effective treatment, though the cases of fungal and mould infestation I know of have always been successfully treated by an overhaul/servicing, then education given as to how the equipment is used in potentially risky environments, and then when stored to prevent the problem from recurring.

Here in Australia, mould and fungal infestation of cameras and lenses is a problem during extended exposure in tropical far northern Queensland and parts of the Northern Territory. I am not aware of any precedent of the problem in the southern states of Western Australia, South Australia, New South Wales or Tasmania.

—garyh

7. From : Co-Moderator Gary Rowan Higgins (Australia) (nomail@encable.net.au)
Url : http://tinyurl.com/gcx2k
Date : 02:34 AM Monday 28 August, 2006

Can anyone help? Best Buy are kids and not helpful. I have a canon eos 5000 and it is not working. I want to purchase a digital one for my husband and want one that will be compatible with the lens we already have. -Nancy (brotherton@citlink.net)
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Well, there are no kids here, Nancy, but more information needs to be provided as to why your EOS 5000 is not working or what model of Canon digital you have in mind. It's not possible to provide a recommendation on any one or other retail store. —garyh

8. From : Co-Moderator Gary Rowan Higgins (Australia) (nomail@encable.net.au)
Url : http://tinyurl.com/gcx2k
Date : 03:17 PM Sunday 27 August, 2006

Hi
I'm currently searching Ebay for a good, used eos-1n body, but not too sure as to what lens I should also look out for - prime lens or zoom? If I go for a zoom, any suggestions on what I should look for in terms of quality? Would be interested to know people's preferences.
Thanks - James (james_dean05@tiscali.co.uk)
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James,
Firstly, if sourcing an EOS 1N from eBay, exercise diligence and carry out very thorough prior checks on the seller AND the equipment to ensure that you do not come away with a purchase that you may later come to regret.

Whether you use prime lenses or zooms will depend to a large degree on what your involvement is in photography. If your interest is in travel photography, 1 or 2 zooms and maybe a single prime lens. The series I fancy is a 17-40mm, 70-200mm (or 35-350 if cost, bulk and weight is no object) and a 20mm or 24mm ultra-wide angle. All of this would serve as an excellent travel kit. If your interest is in documentary, then a single zoom with both wide coverage and enough pulling power for discreet shots from afar would be a good idea. The main advantage of zooms is the precision of framing: you don't need to wander around, back and forth for the right viewpoint as you can do this well with a zoom (that's not to say you should still get a bit of mental and physical exercise and experiment widely with viewpoints!).

The quality of imaging produced by zoom lenses has come a very long way from the 1980s when zooms were an entirely forgettable choice for any type of photography and that's the era when prime lenses were very much in vogue, simply for their superior imaging quality over the then inferior quality offered by zooms.

Fast forward to the 2000s and Canon's L-series zooms offer performance that clearly show how far optical technology has come in 20-odd years. The gap between zoom and prime imaging is getting very, very narrow indeed and many professionals do find themselves with just one or two zooms to cover virtually every photographic eventuality. The throngs of media you may often see armed with EOS cameras and quite compact L-series zooms well demonstrate the faith professionals have in zoom lenses today.

While L-series lenses offer the best return on investment, I must say there is nothing at all wrong with Canon's consumer-level lenses, and I would highly recommend you try a couple of these side by side with the simplicity and efficiency endemic to a prime lens.

In the end, only years of active experience will tell you what lens or lenses you will actually use and naturally develop a preference for one over the other.

Reading: EF Lenses: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/eos/EF-lenses/index.htm

—garyh

9. From : Co-Moderator Gary Rowan Higgins (Australia) (nomail@encable.net.au)
Url : http://www.tinyurl.com/gcx2k
Date : 10:44 AM Wednesday 16 August, 2006

Help needed for EOS-1n. Have just purchased an eos-1n body from e-bay only to find that the shutter just will not fire at all. When the shutter button is fully depressed bc flashes on the display. The batteries are new and the battery check shows full power, so I'm assuming it's not a battery or battery pack connection problem. I dont have a lens on the body, would this stop the shutter from firing?
Thanks, Mike - Mike (cre.8@lycos.com)
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Mike,
First of all, with the 1N on, press the CLEAR button inside the palm door. (reference: see http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/eos/EOS-1n/htmls/CustomFunctions.htm ) With no lens mounted, the shutter should certainly fire, and the aperture value will be displayed as 00.

If this resets the camera, then mount a lens. Switch the lens to MF (manual focus), the camera to M (manual mode) and select 1/8000 sec Tv and f22 (or f32) Av and fire the camera 2 or 3 times WITH THE BACK CLOSED.

If the above works, immediately run a roll of transparency film through the camera and expose in mixed conditions. Because of transparency film's narrow exposure latitude, any errors with the camera's exposure or electronics system will be immediately evident — particularly if Custom Function 6 is set to 0 — meaning time (Tv), aperture (Av) and exposure compensation steps are all moved in precise 1/3 stop increments.

If your 1N is fitted with the power drive booster E1 (reference: see http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/eos/EOS-1n/htmls/PDBE1.htm), remove this and check the gold interface terminals for any sign of damage or corrosion and the mounting and locating pins for any sign of damage. A cotton bud dipped in methylated spirits is sufficient to clean up dirty terminals. The internal battery terminals should also be examined.

A jammed shutter mechanism is rare but can happen —particularly if the mirror box or back of the camera has been exposed to the elements or the shutter curtain has been damaged through imprudent film insertion/removal.

If after the above, the camera does not reset after pressing CLEAR, nor will it fire with a lens attached in any mode, then an internal fault is certainly indicated. The EOS 1N, like most EOS cameras, carries out a self-diagnostics test within milliseconds of being switched on. If a fault is apparent, this diagnosis will return an error, typically a 'bc' warning, but not always. Canon technicians are able to enumerate EOS1N faults through a specialised device that plugs into the hot-shoe of the camera and reads off an events memory, including, but not limited to, the number of exposures made on the camera.

Unfortunately, camera problems like this are all too common with eBay camera purchases and the buyer is often left with faulty equipment that was not disclosed or worse, not realised by the seller. Perhaps the eBay/PayPal Buyer Protection Program may be able to assist in reparation or refund of your money, particularly if the seller knew of any fault or damage).

If all else fails, you must have the camera examined by service centre familiar with the EOS 1N.

—garyh

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Date : 01:22 AM Friday 11 August, 2006

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