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1. From : Neil (neil@d-a-t-a.co.uk)
Url : http://
Date : 11:14 AM Sunday 11 July, 2004

Dear all,

Not a good photographer am I, and certainly no expert. A life of disinterested happy snapping was breached when my girlfriend bought me a digital camera. I exploded with new found enthusiasm for a good photo. Just at the point of securing my first quality images I discovered faults. The purple fringing, the blown highlights, the not quite right colours. Strange I thought. Seeking professional advise I discovered that all these issues were related to CCD imaging. Disillusioned I asked if there was such a technology that would cure these ailments. The answer, much to my surprise was "Film". Having spent time learning about "continuous tone" etc. I have realised that film is wonderful, and merely limited by how much you can spend on a scanner (which can be upgraded as the tech improves). I am now totally confident with my (purchased on advise) Pentax ME-Super when loaded with a roll of Tri-X or Fuji C-41. I am staggered by my personal findings. My film camera equipment cost 1/5th of what a digital set-up would of cost me. And the build quality is factor 10. Out of 1200 photos I took with my digital camera, I printed 20. With my film camera, having shot 17 rolls of film I have a photo album of over 100 pictures. I now print at 10x8 with confidence (Minolta Scan Dual IV).

I do not proclaim to understand the tech of either digital or film cameras, but I believe I can perceive the difference between digital and analogue (vinyl/CD etc). I am now bemused.

Jay claims digital gives you more.

Ian states film is better.

My gut instinct is to agree with Ian. Jay, please explain, how does digital give you MORE than analogue?


2. From : Mico (micolx@netscape.net)
Url : http://
Date : 04:17 AM Sunday 11 July, 2004

Terry, check your mail,info is there.
M.


3. From : Terry Kitchen (Kitchen@streetlife.co.uk)
Url : http://
Date : 07:07 PM Saturday 10 July, 2004

Hello!

Sorry not to have responded to the info on reduced firing button travel with winder, but I have been away for a couple of weeks. Anyway "Thanks Guys"!

P.s. To Mico - I would be very grateful if you could send any data on mirror height adjustment to my email: kitchen@streetlife.co.uk

Regards Terry Kitchen


4. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrottterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://globetrotterworld.co.uk
Date : 02:01 AM Thursday 08 July, 2004

NEWS!! Fuji have recently released the new FORTIA 100 ISO. It looks to far surpass the quality of VElvia 100, and more close to our beloved Velvia 50. Will it be better than Velvia 50, or at least hold similar quality and vibrant colour, but at twice the speed? I do hope so! I also hope that it doesn't come at too high a price increase...(mind you, the old Velvia would then drop in price even more!). View information and photos here: http://www.fujifilm.co.jp/ppg/fortia/index.html


5. From : Ian (ian@ity.co.uk)
Url : http://
Date : 08:19 AM Wednesday 07 July, 2004

Jay, I look forward to your return. Safe journey. - Ian.


6. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://globetrotterworld.co.uk
Date : 06:11 PM Sunday 04 July, 2004

Hope you arrive home safely, Jay.

Regarding the coatings of the Sigma lenses: I still don't think that they've quite got the flare problems at hand, although they've got some lenses in their line-up with stunning sharpness. I've been quite happy with their EX 24mm F/1.8 DG, with crisp sharpness and a great added feature of ultra-close focus. However, I have to really watch for flare or bouncing of light on intenal glass surfaces when shooting towards the sun or with the sun just out of shot. A hand held up just out of shot to partly shade the lens does help a lot for some landscape photos. Durability seeems OK, and no problems taking it to harsh locations worldwide - but I'd still prefer it to have the more solid construction of the older manual Nikons, or the wonderful Pentax 24mm F/2. The Pentax also coped far better with flare, and seemed to hold it's sharpness in the corners better than the Sigma when aperture is closed to smallest aperture (although there is no real difference in the two at the sharpest F/8-f/11 range). On the digital front, my partner seems more keen than I to enter the fold. She has been using a 3.2meg camera for the past few years. The recent trip saw her only taking the Nikon F80 film-based body, but she's still really lusting after the advantages of on-location viewing of taken shots, so will probably buy a Nikon D70 (This body is similar to her F80 body, so the learning curve will be short and fast when she does swap over).

I'm sticking with film at the moment and we'll be buying a new high-grade scanner soon to help convert some special images to digital files. I am thinking seriously about buying a second digital body to use alongside my film-based F5 system. Images I've viewed at full-page and part-double-page spreads in magazines using the D2H were very good, even though its only 4+ meg (it definitely seems that numbers of pixels does not always equate to great images - and I've not been impressed with results from the Pro Kodak Pro DCS, and prefer the results from the D1X and EOS1D & EOS1Ds). The new D2X and F6 should be launched at the Olympics or soon after, so I'll wait and see what they have to offer. Results from the new Pro Olympus E1 look superb and although sales have not been good with this model, it seems that Sigma have recently made adeal to make lenses for this camera, so this should boost future sales. I've also heard that Olympus will soon be updating the E1 digital model. The Pentax *istD has had some decent reviews, but sales have not been good worldwide, and I'd much prefer to see a more robust Pro-level model from Pentax (when and if, it arrives) to match the offerings from Nikon & Canon. Prices are dropping rapidly with digital SLR's but the film-based secondhand market is racing down! Mint Pentax LX cameras are now selling for less than £200, and a Nikon F5 can now be bought for under £500! With prices like that, I can see me waiting a while yet before parting with wads-full of cash for the latest digital SLR. The nice thing about using the Pentax Z1p body and LX body was the complete compatability with both manual and autofous SMC lenses. A fact that hit a few hiccups when the MZ-S and ist* range was launched. Nikon also left a sour taste when they began leaving out aperture rings on thier new lenses, and also loss of Matrix metering with manual lenses with bodies such as the F5. However, the new D2H DSLR now allows full backward compatability, including even Matrix metering with older manual Ais lenses. Will Pentax follow suit and allow complete metering and no loss of functions when an old SMC-A manual lens is bayoneted onto a future Pro istD*2 (or LX-D)?!


7. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 12:27 AM Sunday 04 July, 2004

I am soon to return from the eastern USA and may catch-up within a week or so on Ian of UK's now past posted information requiring a response on digital color originations vs. film color originations. Clearly he and I and the research supporting digital differ. The low professional end for digital originations is now up to 8MP, the higher end at 22MP on camera (the Starist D is soon not marektable). I shot both Pentax 35mm chromes and the 14-15MP 645 back, on this assignment, and will have the opportunity to compare image for image soon (I may post some, if and when time permits). The 20mms were both used a great deal, and, regarding distortion, the 2.8 seems superior (but one must use these on axis to the horizon to do them much justice). Having started the race with Leica and Nikon years back, I too vote for Pentax Macro glass as co-equal or superior to Nikon Macro glass. However, with the mass marketing changes ongoing with all manufacturers, it is unclear what will be available in the new gear line-up a few years from now for professionals. As for the lens pictured in the masthead of this site, could it be a large aperture 85mm, or a really long lens???? Has Sigma improved its coatings, I had a 28-70 f2.8 APO EX Sigma a while and was very disappointed with flare stemming from their coatings>sharpness is not enough for good shots!

Mico has once again provided expertise on adjustments, tweaks, and repairs from the experts hand. But he has not answered personal e-mail about meeting in Slovenia come winter. SO, some of us seem more comfortable with gear than relationships.
Globetrotter seems comfortable with both, having a partner in the shooting works. Later, Jay


8. From : Mico (micolx@netscape.net)
Url : http://
Date : 06:12 PM Saturday 03 July, 2004

Anton, I must say I have never heard about this kind of speed inconsistency. It looks very much like ageing electronics (I presume capacitors) and resembles certain problems I had, but in different segments of LX functions. Unfortunately, most of the components involved in such a behaviour are traped on the PCB which is, in most cases, irreparable. I had to by-pass certain components in order to retrieve meter switch-off function , but that was relatively easy compared to what you had described. M.


9. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://globetrotterworld.co.uk
Date : 05:05 PM Saturday 03 July, 2004

Thank you for your useful information, Lim. I'm not sure that I fully agree with you on the quality level of macro lenses available from Nikon compared to Pentax. In my view, the Pentax FA 100mm F/2.8 Macro is equal to the Nikon version, and I would definitely say that the manual focus Pentax-A* 200mm F/4 ED Macro is far better AND sharper than the manual focus Nikkor 200mm F/4 Micro (Although I agree that the autofocus version 200mm f/4 Micro is slightly sharper than the manual Nikkor version, but it does tend to be a little 'front heavy'). In fact, I eventually sold the Nikon 200mm f/4 Micro and bought the Sigma 180mm f/2.8 APO Macro because not only does the Sigma have a faster aperture, but it has a smoother manual focus ring, and performs better than the Nikon at all distances.


10. From : JY Lim (limjinyan@yahoo.com)
Url : http://nil
Date : 12:15 PM Saturday 03 July, 2004

I used to have a Nikon F2S (the one with the BIG meter finder head). Sold it when I turned to a Pentax LX years ago. But I am keeping the F2 T (titanium) - the one that does not have the "Titan" word inscribed at the front (http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/nikonf2/f2/variants/f2titan/index.htm) glad that I am keeping it because it appreciates in value now. In field works, I think the F2 is hard to take on the LX, simply because the semi automation it provides and its far superior weight factor (The DS-1 F2 combination does provide Shutter Priority AE ut that will add another 1 kg in weight !). But frankly, I like the Nikkor lenses very much in terms of their variable options and their macro lenses are seemingly FAR FAR better than what Pentax can provide (Sorry). anyway, just bought a second hand LX Millenium with a f/1.2 for "investment".


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