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1. From : Mico (micolx@netscape.net)
Url : http://
Date : 07:36 AM Saturday 09 October, 2004

So, here is my “ideal” DSLR from Pentax, at least for the moment. But before I start, I would like to let you all know about few simple facts regarding Pentax`s position among other camera manufacturers.Data is from 1996, but proportion is the point here. Excuse me if this is a common knowledge.

Canon: working force-67.200
Research funds: 1,5 bill.$
*Photo department: 16%

Nikon: working force-7.300
Research funds: 182 mil.$
*Photo department:47,6%

Minolta: (alone) working force-18.000
Research funds: 263 mil.$
*Photo department: 30%

Konica: (alone) working force-20.000
Research funds: 375 mil.$
*Photo department; 40%

Olympus: working force-12.230
Research funds: 370 mil.$
*Photo Department 30%

Pentax: working force – 5.600
Research funds: 73 mil.$ (!!)
*Photo department 60%

Mico Smiljanic
Canada

- Upgradeable sensor/camera back
- At this point, full-frame 8-10MP
- Sensitivity ISO 50 to 3600
- In-camera image stabilisation
- Continuous 3 frames/sec. with 36 frames buffer storage
- 100% coverage, optical viewfinder
- Metal-alloy body
- Full compatibility with K,M,A and all AF lenses
- The less possible amount of sub-menus, more knobs and dials instead
- AMEN! M.



2. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://globetrotterworld.co.uk
Date : 05:53 PM Sunday 03 October, 2004

Welcome back, Mico!


3. From : Mico (micolx@netscape.net)
Url : http://
Date : 05:19 AM Sunday 03 October, 2004

Hi all, just returned from the long "Greek Islands" assignement, and as soon as I get some proper sleep and read previous postings, my LX-D proposal will be here. M.


4. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 08:26 PM Saturday 02 October, 2004

Ian, Isn't lithium what works for bipolar disorder? Shouldn't it help with erratic shutter too?

Very understandable disappointment, approximately half the milliampres with the physically bigger unit than the silver oxide dual composite. It is like the collapse of the Soviet Empire. --Jay


5. From : Ian (ian@ity.co.uk)
Url : http://
Date : 07:30 AM Saturday 02 October, 2004

Battery update. Silver Oxide it is. After a recent battery failure (MLU) in the field (literally) I concluded my battery research. The DL1/3N Lithium I had in at the time died mid-shoot. It quite took me by surprise. 5 months, and maybe 5 rolls (body No.2). I didn't lose a shot, threw it over to X as I was using a 280T at the time. Here's the nut and bolt... DL1/3N's are 170mah, 357 silver oxides are 165mah EACH. Something else I didn't know - Lithium Manganese cells drop voltage like they're winning a pro downhill mountain bike race. The silver oxides are totally flat until it's game over (which, lets face it, we all knew but maybe had forgotten). "Super" Silver Oxide cells have the later seal design/materials, so leakage is less of a problem (>5 years). Dan, maybe this confers with your findings. - Ian.


6. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 11:52 PM Friday 01 October, 2004

Globetrotter, or should I say Globetranslator. It was an attempt at humor, but it is hard to distance oneself from a jargon bound past reputation. We are still missing Mico's contribution as to DSLR design ideas. And all these cultural quirks make our site amazing. --Jay


7. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://globetrotterworld.co.uk
Date : 05:45 PM Friday 01 October, 2004

"...discumbobulate obsfucated dialectics..."?!

And there was me thinking just how Jay’s simple choice of words was becoming easier to dissect...and then he dumbfounds us with discumbobulation! It's a good job that you're not translating the Japanese into simple English prose for future Pentax Instruction books, Jay, or we'd be lost in obsfucated intellectual dialects...


Only joking, of course, Jay.(smile)


8. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 02:41 AM Friday 01 October, 2004

Kudos to Robert, rereading his LxII design posts, he did not refer to an aperture window in the viewfinder, but the nature of the viewfinder; my mistaken take on the infomation he offered. It is clear that when I am dealing with a lot of information in my days, I can discumbobulate obsfucated dialectics. I find it annoying that only ten posts can be read at a time and that we must scroll down and select other past postings to advance to the rear, so to speak. How else could the pages be posted to have the more recent stuff up for the long scruntiny re: ongoing topics? --Jay


9. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 02:34 AM Friday 01 October, 2004

Robert, Thanks for the clarification. Most DSLRs have small viewfinders due to the reduced size of the sensor array. We are in agreement, and have even achieved dialogue. It would actually be supportive of marketing to do what you and Tony suggest, offer an upgradeable body. This would be a unique approach to the ongoing obsolescence of marching digital technology. Even so, I doubt all future possiblities can be forseen, or preplanned. That is the stuff of the synthesis of computerized and digitized technology--ideas playing off ideas, designs for ergonomics playing off other such phenomina.
--Jay


10. From : Robert Clark (robertclark@vsnl.net)
Url : http://
Date : 08:42 PM Thursday 30 September, 2004

Jay, maybe you misunderstood, I'm not at all attached to being able to optically see the aperture readout, that's not what I meant at all. I was talking about a bright optical viewfinder, with LX size mirror and prism, that is bright and clear to look through and to compose in - drawing a contrast to the shrunken prisms and half-size mirrors of most DSLR's, with their all-too squinty viewfinders.

Globetrotter's list, exhaustive and desireable, and not so different from mine, obviously comes from an intelligent user. I very much doubt it will have any influence on designers controlled by bean-counters and marketing men at Pentax. An upgradeable camera so that you don't have to throw it away after a few years - it goes too much against the modern trend and will be considered sacrilege to those most concerned with market position and profit.

Though, having said that, it is probably not too difficult to build with such forethought, and could, if the whole package (including lenses) was right, appeal to those who would rather build long term familiarity with their ergonomically considered tools than play with the latest gizmos.


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