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1. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://www.canonlens.co.uk
Date : 05:13 AM Friday 24 March, 2006

I'm with Jay on this one...in that I'm not keen at all on variable aperture lenses, although I sometimes use them. For me ,nothing beats a fixed & fast aperture zoom...except of course, a fixed & fast aperture prime lens!


2. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 04:52 AM Friday 24 March, 2006

Mico, Although I do not appreciate the variable aperture the Sigma 12-24mm F/4.5-5.6 EX DG Aspherical IF HSM Zoom Lens does cover the full frame. It can be purchased too, around $500. Their DC series covers only the AP sized sensor. I know nothing about the optical quality of this lens, but it should be reviewed on Fred Miranda's site, and on Photozone.de. --Jay


3. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://www.wilderness-photo.co.uk
Date : 04:42 AM Friday 24 March, 2006

Philip - you'll love that FA Pentax 100mm F/2.8. It is a great lens, and I've obtained some suberb images over the years using one with a variety of Pentax MF & AF camera bodies.

The best macro lens that I've ever used is the Sigma 180mm F/2.8 APO Macro (metal body version) - Much better than the Nikkor 200mm F/4 Micro.

Probably the best Macro in the Pentax lens line-up is the superb Pentax A* 200mm F/4 Macro.

How do you like the MF Pentax A* 300mm f/2.8 ED? I lusted after one for a long time, but never got to buy one. However, I'm extremely happy with my Nikkor 300mm F/2.8 EDIF (it provides a similar performance to the Pentax version).


4. From : AB (nuzzlemuff@fsmail.net)
Url : http://
Date : 04:41 AM Friday 24 March, 2006

Hi Phillip (and all)

I've handled a low end Canon and the new low-end Nikon.

I guess it also depends on what you shoot, low-light jazz clubs and portraits where I need to see expression require a big bright viewfinder as do manual focus lenses and err mature eyesight!

I think the low-end models have a mirror prism whilst the high-end DSLRs might have a mirrored glass prism. The viewfinder of the new full frame Canon was praised in AP. Maybe it's a sensor size thing but my original question remains. Why not simply magnify the screen? Having that black border seems to serve no pupose.

AB


5. From : Philip Ashman (genesisphil@hotmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 04:13 AM Friday 24 March, 2006

Anton

You mention having handled a few DSLR's belonging to friends, but not which ones. Unsure, therefore, if you have actually handled the *istds that I have. I know what you say regarding viewfinders, but would mention that the *istds does have,all the reviews state, probably the best viewfinder of any comparable DSLR's. It covers 95% of the image and I myself have no real problems with composition. There again I haven't actually handled any of the competition myself to see what you mean.

The main thing I would have changed would be to have had the metering mode available to change on the quick 4 way FN button, instead of having to go into and scroll through the menu. To accomodate they could have moved the flash mode selector back into the main menu from the FN button, as, for me at least, it is something I rarely need to change, whereas metering mode is often adjusted for relevent pics.

I suppose that you can't please everyone though.

Philip



6. From : AB (nuzzlemuff@fsmail.net)
Url : http://
Date : 03:19 AM Friday 24 March, 2006

Re: Phillip and the digitals.

A main drawback for me - having handled a few DSLRs that belong to friends - is the tiny viewfinder; I find it a poor compositional tool. Why can't they simply magnify (with the eyepiece) the screen and lose the useless large black border?

Regarding posting. When I post these days I immediately log into the admin area and post the post, deleting any spam and posting other legitimate offerings whilst I'm there. This affords some spontaneity for me but doesn't help non-admin users of course.

AB


7. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 01:04 AM Friday 24 March, 2006

All. ICC Color Management Profiles are useful, but not unflappable. As all color reproduction is false color, not ever exactly faithful in fidelity to the original scene, one should manage their color renders for literal output use results...in other words for the results that they wish to output (on color printer, disc, file, monitor file view or whatever:in order to grant the viewable result they are, by manipulating their craft, anticipating).

I listed four possible ways to adjust a monitor render, most people use two or three of these. Knowing and incorporating all four for LCD views becomes essential toward moving toward true color (which is not achievable in reality, but should be sought). Each type of color reproduction technology has limits and adjustments--make full use of them. --Jay


8. From : Philip Ashman (genesisphil@hotmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 05:37 PM Thursday 23 March, 2006

It has always of course been a bugbear for people with 35mm film SLR's that acquiring an APS size sensor DSLR means their wide angle lenses no longer provide the coverage that they did on their film equipment. This though is balanced in some respects by the increase gained from long telephotos, especially for the wildlife enthusiast.
For me, fortunately, I am more than happy, as a keen wildlife photographer, to live with the loss of wide angle coverage, even though I also enjoy landscape work, but can adapt in that regard.
Before I bought my *istds I already had a Sigma 15mm f2.8 that, as a semi fish-eye, I used and still do, on the LX, for creative work. This has now become a 22.5mm wide angle when used on the *istds and works for me.
As I wanted a standard (ish) zoom for my *istds, I also recently purchased the Sigma 20-40mm f2.8, which also covers the wide angle for my LX and gives me an effective 30-60mm on the *istds.
So, I am quite happy with the range available to me for both systems and even happier with the extra I get when using my Pentax 300mm f2.8 or new Sigma 500 f4.5 on the *istds.
Of course on the LX 's I still regularly use my 28mm f2.8 and 50mm f1.7 manual Pentax lenses, that I don't use on the *istds.
I have also, just the other day, bought a 2nd hand (near mint) Pentax AF 100mm f2.8 macro lens from a dealer. Initial tests on the *istds reveal it's gorgeous!! I had previously been using a Sigma 105mm f2.8 macro, that I was very pleased with, but regretably I had slightly marked the front lens element through carelessness out in the field, and although it appeared to not show up on images, it had been bothering me for a while.
I plan to do some some Velvia 50 work with the new Pentax macro on my LX, with my Pentax ringflash, just as soon as this rather long UK winter passes and the insects begin to emerge. This is what I enjoy the most as its like entering another strange and wonderful world so often overlooked by Joe public who amaze me at times when I'm on my local reserve by asking what on earth I could be photographing as their is no wildlife about. As far as they are concerned unless it can be seen from a distance it doesn't count as wildlife ! LOL.

Philip


9. From : AB (nuzzlemuff@fsmail.net)
Url : http://
Date : 04:44 PM Thursday 23 March, 2006

I see there is another late LX on eBay 536**** about 20 pieces later than mine, the seller says he bought it direct from Pentax Japan in April 2001 so I guess mine is from 2000/1 no wonder all the foam/rubber is good.

I am up to my quota on LX's; it has taken many years, many repairs and an amount of re-selling at a loss. This last one is my walking around camera; it is fitted with a 35-105 (which - despite me not favouring zooms - is a very good lens) and a long nose case. The reason for persevering for an LX is that the TTL flash is useful. I can load 400 ISO film and with the flash, the zoom and a beanbag, I'm covered for almost any situation. Sorted (at last).

AB


10. From : Mico (micolx@netscape.net)
Url : http://
Date : 09:49 AM Thursday 23 March, 2006

Jay and Phill, thank you for your inputs on LCD vs.CRT monitors. I think that problems I am experiencing are mainly linked to the LCD`s nature and can not be fixed by any ICC profile or tweaking. Jay, I can not tweak any monitor control, not to mention other ICC related computer settings, once calibration is over. This is a big no-no and is written in BIG BOLD letters on the last screen before closing the program. If I did that, the whole profile would have fallen apart.
Also, you can not get decent CRT computer monitor any more. The only two companies which still make CRT tubes are Hyndai and Samsung.Not to say that these are bad, but the technology they use around their CRT tubes is "cheapo". And of course, they are concentrated on the further development of TFT or LCD displays. In year or two LCD may match the CRT in some respects but for now I am returning my LCD back.
Phill, calibrating monitor with the software is not technically daunting, in fact it is very simple. What is daunting is the price: 250US for the "Spyder 2" or well over 300US for "Gretag Macbeth" or "Sequel Imaging".
Jay, you are right, there is a solution for wide and ultra wide shooting with APS-C sensors without breaking the bank, reduced field or “digital” lenses. But I am in the camp which is reluctant to invest in such lenses since I do not intend to stay “cropped” for a long time. And those lenses would end up being useless on any other camera except 1.6X
Rebel and 20/30D. All my lenses are 35mm full-frame and it is probably going to stay that way. 17-40 L is 27-65 on 20D, not that wide. Breaking the bank means that I would like to use 14/2.8L as a 22/2.8 – sweat dream at the price of 1.900 US. Canon does not have any affordable option in their full-frame line, “L” or not “L”. I would probably go for “Tokina” 12-24/4 in case of emergency, Canon`s 10-22 is just too expensive. And, just to mention, why is Pentax`s version of the SAME 12-24 lens 200US more? M.


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