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Industry wide indications and ceasing film body development by Pentax altogether in early 2003 more than suggest the manual focus Pentax LX will not be having an upgrade (except, perhaps for very rare Limited Edition Models hand assembled by special commission by the new HoyaPentax Corporation). In 2008 Pentax became a division of Hoya Corporation, which had together with Pentax released jointly developed professional grade optics (since 2005); Pentax has shifted its attention to development of auto focus Digital SLRs having build qualities constructed for the long run--now with weather seals--like the LX. You may use this site for common support and sharing of mutual users knowledge or experiences among yourselves. You may also use this message board as a guestbook for the advanced users Pentax SLR cameras from the LX forward, including many such auto focus film cameras, and Pentax digital SLR cameras. We keep the site going too for the WORD SEARCH FEATURE found here as to its magnificent K mount system user archives: as have been shared here for many years. Have an inquiry related to Pentax gear? First try KEYING IN YOUR KEY WORD(S) for a preexisting archived response on your subject of inquiry from this LX site. If your inquiry or sharing is from advanced users K10D, K20D, or K200D SLR needs, proceed on to t NEW PENTAX ADVANCED USERS K10D, K20D SLR site.

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1. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 10:44 AM Monday 06 February, 2006

Technoshaking, econoshaking, shooken. In forming new alliances and in recent moves toward holdings and type of industry diversification, Pentax, as such, may yet survive these realities (as has been recently reported here). Boardrooms must be difficult environments now in Japan (remember recently when they shut down their stock market the good part of a week?). Essentially, what one reads in Tony's steer toward the press release is a Sony-Konica-Minolta DSLR merger (while taking care of those active customers still linked to KM technology in professional product cameras and photography). Nothing is stated about the imaging division (filmscanners, copiers, and the like). Income losses of mass proportions continue to overcome old long known realities, but, both KM and Contax were reabsorbed to date into other enterprises.

Now, in forming one's own system use strategies, as to futures, I have raised some recent questions on which we would appreciate our forum contributors responses. --Jay


2. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://www.wilderness-photo.co.uk
Date : 05:19 AM Monday 06 February, 2006

For those people that didn't already know...Konica Minolta have now withdrwan from the camera and photo business (although Minolta will continue to work in partnership with Sony, but not under Konica Minolta name).

For further information, go here:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0601/06011901konicaminoltaout.asp

Contax, then Minolta,...who is going to be next I wonder?


3. From : JAY (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 03:58 PM Sunday 05 February, 2006

The LX camera and system are still precision gear. Keeping it all fully functioning and smoothly rolling along may take some strategy. More gear seems to be coming into the used marketplace, and holding value, with obvious considerations for careful selection and purchase. What to retain, use, pamper, fix, and simply appreciate? The biggest disappointment to me of the body is that a harder finish was not applied, so it easily was/is readily scratched (though the titanium version may have been more robust?). The build, feel, and LX extension of the user’s mind to the hand always has made up for that strange oversight. Pet Peeves? For Tony it seemed to be the lack of spot metering, and his own feelings about the motor drive not quite being user friendly…Mico has mentioned having to test some vintage lenses, especially zooms, to get the very best in his kit, and the disappointments out….what has been your experience? What do you like and dislike, besides the usual well known quirks? Oh, that low light meter, how it follows even comets across the sky.

So, carrying K and M series lenses into this century has taken some calculated consideration: the good color, the tightness of focus, the unflappable mount marriage to camera bodies, the orange match aperture and distance scale “spot” for maximum depth of field for street use of wide angles (when shooting on the run) has made these hard to part with. They have held at least half their original value, and sometimes much much more. Certain primes have a dedicated following (20s, 24s, 28s, 35s, 40s, 50s, 80s, 100s, 135s, 200s, 300s, 500s, etc.). Which could you not part with? The drawback keeping some of these older K mount optics seems to be the lack of electrical contact marriage with newer bodies, their viewfinder displays, and those bodies metering functions. The problem with letting go is how to update and find a duplicate feel, angle of acceptance, and wide aperture in use, along with the color and image quality. Certain optics become good friends. Some 2004 discontinued A series can be had as demos at bargain prices.

Even so, doing an inventory of your gear, and why you keep it may be called for, to best retain, and recapture investment, and to reinvest in A, F, FA, and DA newer optics. Frankly, I’ve only had one aperture mechanism ever needing cleaning, and that was after 30+ years of available use. Taking a bright, white light, flashlight, such as a mutli-LED, and shining it through both ends of a lens can reveal an amazing amount of dust, aperture and inner barrel fallen flecks on lens elements, and some aperture blade wear (also, rare fungus amongus). This year, I decided only to keep K and M series gear I use all the time or will use for certain applications. One strategy for peddling gear, of course, is Ebay. Another is to look for colleges, Universities, and Art schools which teach photography near local town camera stores, and move unneeded gear by consignment through them. Their commission can range from 20 to 40% in this country.

Recently, a K1000 with a 50mm f2m, in pristine condition, brought $229 US here in Boulder near the University (the Photography program requires its students to learn about aperture, shutter speed, and their relationships to film speed, EV, and lens uses. This is required in still taught black and white chemically based photography classes for art, architecture, and journalism students. I counted about ten used K1000s in their cases when winter-spring semester began. They will move “all” of these in the first month). Trading in on newer equipment seems limited now to stores who are able to move used gear. The bigger stores which carry primarily new gear here simply will no longer accept 35mm based trade-ins because they cannot sell such for what they used to, prior to the digital sales upswing.

So, what will now be your system gear use, upgrade, and sales strategies? What have been your LX pet peeves, and how have you overcome these? What needs fixing, can be fixed, and what looks like it is unfeasible to mess with it? Where is your own photography headed? What newer series lenses, than K and M series, do you hope to incorporate into your LX use (and other K mount bodies into this century)? What has surprised you about the old gear, with positive and negative comments, and the new? Lets open up these kind of expressions to the forum. --Jay




4. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 05:15 AM Saturday 04 February, 2006

2004 is listed on the site mentioned as the last production year for 90 some percent of all A and FA lenses recently in production. In addition to whatever is still available through Pentax Reps warehouses throughout the world, the longer star teles will be available on a per order basis from the factory. It remains sad to see only Nikon and Canon as shaken down from the great technology shifts and professional user purchase preferences as to still making complete systems, lens arrays, and accessories. Pentax has shifted to zoom lens R & D, and
zoom lens coverage lines of medium apertures (though very high quality lenses are still being so developed).

Pentax has remained committed to DSLR development, with its aformentioned R&D alliances. But, to remain in the game, is to be profitable at it, or such smaller manufacturers withdraw. Be encouraged though, that unlike many Japanese enterprises of yesteryear, Pentax has diversified in order to remain an active enterprise.

My next posting will be on brainstorming system survival problem solving, and on how to buy and sell to keep upgrading with the best gear from the M,A,F, and FA eras. This will focus on our manual focus, LX system, and its supporting gear.
--Jay


5. From : Philip Ashman (genesisphil@hotmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 06:39 PM Friday 03 February, 2006

Thanks for that link Jay to the K mount website and I have forwaded some images of my new 300mm f2.8 plus info etc..that will hopefully be of use.

Philip


6. From : JAY (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 12:14 PM Friday 03 February, 2006

Re: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/

The "K Mount Pages" website, given above, which we all seem to occasionally use for reference purposes, can use your help. Click on the site, then find the "To Do" list the maintainer faces for completion to increase the coverage of details on virtually most K mount products displayed on this wonderful information site. His efforts help us all discover the various qualities and limits of all K mount products (especially as they have and are evolving). He is especially interested in accurate historical information on manufacturing start and stop dates for K mount products, and lens maximum magnifications from various optics.

For example, the recently remarked, as purchased, 300mm f 2.8 FA lens, by a frequent contributor/user here is listed on the TO DO list there as needing certain specified information, and a new image of it for the site (to be given for that site's inclusion, along with all copyright rights of an image offered to the site of it). The owner of that lens can forward this needed information to the KMP site as a contribution to help all in the K Mount community.

Many other items, lenses, and bodies are listed for TO DO list KMP site contributions--as to requests for future updating of much information posted there. So, LX forum regulars, please take the time to contribute to that site's listed needs: as to giving those requested details on what you own, the literature you may have on hand on K, M, A, F, FA, DA, etc. optics, accessories, and bodies. He does list contributors to his site on it. Here is a chance to link with classic and emerging Pentax user history. --Jay


7. From : Jay (IBCOM@ONEBOX.COM)
Url : http://
Date : 11:36 AM Friday 03 February, 2006

Michael,

Of your body choices listed, condition is key. Further, I would AVOID CDS METERS,for that light metering cell was notorious in any camera for retaining a "memory effect" after doing a direct or bright sunlight exposure reading. It would take several hours passing after metering direct sunlight to be accurate again in available ambient or low light (that was not direct sunlight). This is called a residual effect. Of the bodies you listed, the K1000 has this CDS meter cell; the M series had GAP AND SILICON cells, and the LX silicon. GAP cells and silicon do not have the residual effect DAMPENING ACCURACY. --Jay


8. From : Arby (nothisone@lx.com)
Url : http://
Date : 02:21 PM Thursday 02 February, 2006

I guess purchasing a bare basic SLR has a few things to be considered. One of the biggest advantage of Pentax system is its modest entry PRICE of their used bodies and lenses. IF money is not the issue, within the Pentax system, I would take the LX. However, as most of the manual focus SLRs can be considered obselete now. support and other secondary issues also have to be take into consideration (Nikon also recently abandoned their FM class models. Personally, I would think Nikon FM3A is a better buy. The aging MX is also one of my personal favourite but findig a good condition, well maintained MX body is difficult and even if we can find one, for the similar price, I would rather take the hybrid FM3A (auto but it is mechanical in nature but it has 10 years parts support from now).


9. From : AB (nuzzlemuff@fsmail.net)
Url : http://
Date : 04:06 PM Wednesday 01 February, 2006

Hi Michael

I think the K1000 (no depth of field preview, no mirror lock-up, no self-timer, no aperture or shutter indication in viewfinder) and ME Super (push button shutter setting and other omissions) will be a little limiting. The MX is good, as is the KX (like a K1000 but with depth of field preview, mirror lock-up, self-timer, aperture and shutter indication in viewfinder. The LX is good also but quite expensive and you need to make sure it's working properly. The KX has no known issues other than the light meter being dead - which you can check before you buy. The MX has the best viewfinder image ever.

AB


10. From : Michael (cherrytreesales@aol.com)
Url : http://
Date : 08:36 AM Wednesday 01 February, 2006

Hi everyone;

I'm a photography student in London, UK. At the moment i'm using a Canon 300 (35mm) and a Canon 300D (Digital), i'm thinking of buying a vintage camera, with basic CDS metering and manual aperture / shutter speed / focusing controls. I feel that while my photographic ability is good and improving with every shoot i organise, i'm starting to feel that the camera is doing to much of the work, so i want something that i can use and learn on, go back to the basics if you will.

I'm thinking about purchasing a Pentax, mainly because of the superb optics of that era, and because of the price of vintage Pentax equipment.

I've been looking at the following: K1000, MX, ME SUPER and the LX, which would be the best for what i'm looking for? or can you suggest another model. Also i'm looking for a Pentax Nocta, but i can't seem to find one, which gives me the impression that there extremely rare, any idea were i can get one, and what type of lens mount they have?

Any help would be much appreciated, Thanks

Michael


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