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1. From : Jay (ibcom@juno.com)
Url : http://
Date : 04:00 AM Thursday 20 January, 2005

The sifting of the sands of gear being made, parts available, and LX gear serviced is good to address on this site. Noted and computed now is where to get an LX serviced in Europe. The USA Pentax official repair station is still good for the LX in North America. As to compiling a list for those of us who travel and photograph, what of South America, Africa, and various parts of Asia? Should we sponsor Mico's return to Canada and set him up in a like business there? --Jay


2. From : Ian (ian@ity.co.uk)
Url : http://
Date : 10:33 AM Wednesday 19 January, 2005

Jan, AB's suggestion is right on! (your milage may vary). Go for it! Whilst you still can. - Ian.


3. From : AB (handmaid@fsmail.net)
Url : http://
Date : 04:53 PM Monday 17 January, 2005

Hi Jan I would send it to the UK, I can recommend Harrow Technical for a very good job on LX's (also the winders) he has a good stash of spare parts (www.harrowtechnical.co.uk). He regularly runs a Buy-It-Now offer on eBay under his name Poundapint to service an LX for about £86.50 I can't recommend Pentax UK or Pentax CH (Switzerland) and my experience of Pentax Europe was poor. I think Pentax is finished regarding servicing the LX, better off with an independent. Even including insured postage from Holland it's still not a bad deal for a reliable service. AB


4. From : Jan Van de Moortel (vdmojo@pandora.be)
Url : http://
Date : 08:51 PM Sunday 16 January, 2005

Hi all, Yes my trusty PENTAX LX got the sticky mirror-syndrome... I brought it to my nearest dealer for servicing, but he said there were no spare parts available any more for this type... Can anyone give me a solution, a repaircentre in Belgium or Holland? Thanks a great lot. Greetz, Jan


5. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://www.gallery.globetrotterworld.co.uk
Date : 12:43 AM Sunday 16 January, 2005

A great deal of wise advice in your post, Philip, and I think - knowing that you have been photographing for 4-decades - that you are certainly knowledgeable enough to give some advice to potential buyers, on which are the best lenses to match with their Pentax bodies.

Of course, a great artist or photographer should not always blame his tools, but the simple fact is that a higher obtainable success rate of great images will be provided by the very best of equipment available, rather than trying to cope with the cheapest tools that come to hand. But there again, a 'great' image in some peoples eyes, can also be a 'reject' image in the eyes of others. True excellence or even beauty, is, as always, in the eyes of the beholder.


6. From : Philip Ashman (genesisphil@hotmail.com)
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Date : 05:40 PM Saturday 15 January, 2005

Hi I haven't posted a message for some time now but have been following the regular postings on the message board being an LX owner and greatly valuing the expertise/advice given. This current thread re: lens choice for the LX is very interesting and I would like to add my comments. I am a pure amateur photographer so naturally I only have myself to please and need not worry too much about absolute quality of my images, although naturally striving to get the best results. I use a selection of fixed focal length lenses from 15mm to 400mm, both pentax and sigma, but do tend to buy the sigma for cost reasons and so far have had no complaints at all. Just not felt the need ,so far, for a zoom of any kind for the shots I take.
Rather than offering any advice therefore on choice of lenses to buy(as I am not qualified to do so)I would just like to mention some advice I was given back in the early 70's when starting out. I was acquainted with one of the best UK amateur photographers around at the time (Bob Allen FRPS, FRS....) who himself used 2 old manual pentax cameras (K1000 I think?) and a small selection of manual lenses (he didn't need a meter)and he told me that far too much emphasis was placed on equipment and not enough on the actual photography itself. In other words he said that a lot of people felt that by buying the most expensive and (apparently) best equipment available would allow them to take better pictures, which was simply not true. His advice was that buying a lens was a matter of choosing something that was suitable for your purpose, obviously matched to your camera body and really then the rest was down to luck. What he meant was that every lens was made from a single piece of glass, no two of which were ever the same and whilst very expensive lenses were more likely to give you a very good optic (due to build quality), you could just as well get an equally, or even better optic, from a cheaper lens if the glass used was spot on, although by the same token the odds were more against it. At the end of the day, if you were lucky you could get an excellent cheap lens and if unlucky you could get a pretty bad very expensive lens.
What he said was indeed borne out at the time as I had bought (as it was all I could afford) a Chinon CE2 memotron 35mm slr with 55mm l.7 lens (only available through the Dixons chain store and made for them to sell cheap). I joined a local club and was somewhat sneered at by some members who told me my camera was OK but I would never be any good with one of them and needed to get a pro Nikon, Canon etc.. They were the sort of photographers who judged you by your equipment and not your photographic skills. Interestingly, when entering club competitions, although I was often criticised by the independent judges for composition errors, bad subject choice etc.. (skills that can be improved on)I was always praised for image quality, sharpness etc.. and many were very surprised that I was using what was regarded as a cheap 35mm to be avoided by the discerning photogapher.
I know that for the professional photographer they must ensure the highest quality possible in their images and will naturally go for the most expensive lens they can afford, with the best prospect of image quality, but for somemone like me I feel that the more important factor is your choice of subject, improving your photography skills and if your image has a truly good impact value then any slight quality loss from using a cheap lens will not be noticed. I'm sure that the paints and brushes the modern artist uses are far superior to those available in the rennaisance, but can any modern artists produce better paintings than the great artists of that time? Are today's photographers with the latest equipment better than those of 50 years ago?

In spite of what I say I do of course read reviews before buying a new lens but only as a very general guideline to ensure it will be an appropriate choice for the subjects I wish to take and then usually try and get a second hand one from somewhere like Jessops (UK)who offer a money back guarantee if not satisfied within 30 days (enough time to test the lens).

I just feel that you can get too bogged down on constantly analysing the equipment, testing, comparing etc.. rather than concentrating on and improving your actual photographic skills. Phil


7. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 03:13 AM Friday 14 January, 2005

Pat, I just looked into that particular camera bag. Add SMC before the F lenses designated below. Also, the 70-210 SMC F is a 4-5.6, not a 4.5-5.6--as mistakenly identified below, FYI. These perform well, and have excellent color. Mico has the 28-80 SMC F 3.5-4.5 and likes it as well. Our discussions here on the guestbook when he purchased that used optic were honing in on the newer/latest 28-105 f3.2-4.5 Pentax, with ghostless coatings, made in VietNam. It tested out to be of lesser shooting quality than the original F SMC 28-80, in re: to resolution and distortion. --Jay


8. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 09:11 AM Thursday 13 January, 2005

Pat, One Pentax autofocus lens? Since you cite the value of M series glass, let me venture that such value extends into the A series, and the F series, of now long ago. Once FA series lenses began, with an increase of sales price point consciousness, the clarity of good choice became cloudy. I cannot determine one lens, because one must determine an angle of acceptance for applied shooting by environment. If you cannot afford the 28-70 F 2.8 FA (and who can) or the similar to pro tele glass range 70 or 80 to 200 or 210 f2.8 FA Pentax, I'd revert to F--not FA--series lenses. I still use a 28-80mm 3.5-4.5 F Pentax (not the later FA's inferior consumer type optical formulas, aperture for aperture poorer--when not of premium pro fast lens class zoom lenses, as such). And I still use a 70-210 4.5-5.6 F series (which is one of the first ED glass rear element containers in a mini package). These are useful and very good.

But, are these fast enough for your uses? They can occasionally be found used, and in good shape (and often found used in very used undesirable shape too). I make up the speed and distortion differences primarily with many single focal length fast lenses, M and A series primarily, between 20mm and 600mm (when a factor). I also have three A series zooms, used a bit here. I will chose these over the F series if I have time to carefully compose, do not need AF, and know my subject matter will apply.

Rumors about ceasing 35mm Camera production abound now for many manufacturers...Nikon and Canon included. These usually apply to certain types or models of cameras no longer profitable. For example, in point and shoot small format zooms, digital is now outselling film cameras--not so a couple of years ago. Perhaps the magazine you mentioned qualified which types or models, perhaps not. What is clear, as past posted here, is that film manufacturers are cutting back on film production, by marketplace demand, and choices of film types available accordingly.

Each year the proportion of film processing to digital camera origination of images changes. Last year, locally, the camera stores here in Colorado did about 80% film processing in-house, and 20% digital image storage processing. A year prior it was 90/10%. So, it does not take a rocket scientist to say that film camera production on certain models is bound to cease, and that digital production on certain types to increase. Check out the lens test comparisons in my last posting, per refered website, and you can decide which lens you wish to buy.

Nothing really good is cheap, as were and are M series lenses. But their capabilities to carry information about lens aperture, focus, follow-focus and the like is very limited, and not much applicable to most AF camera bodies. So, if you are looking ahead for one lens, read the charts, consider the angle of view needed for a given environment, and the film or digital format, and judge accordingly. Tamron, for example, makes some very good midrange zooms, and others, as do Tokina and Sigma in certain ranges. The T brand lens makers have better coatings. Sigma has more offerings, and, more wide aperture lens choice offerings (if you need that feature). I do not like the extension of say a 24 or 28 to 105 or 135--the barrel gets too long, with distortion too noticeable (as does the Sigma 50-500mm get too long to handle easily). But, if you need the range, and like the results, go and handle the lens in mind to see if it works for you, and you with it. Who can recommend one lens for another? It now is about ergonomics, and personal choice as much as the quality trade-offs inherent in lens design choices. --Jay


9. From : Pat (patrick.powell1@virgin.net)
Url : http://
Date : 02:45 AM Thursday 13 January, 2005

Thanks for the comments/advice. Buying a lens now seems more difficult than it used to be in the past! Very little I read makes me want to part with my money too quickly. Perhaps I have got too used to picking up excellent M series glass at next to nothing prices.

Lets throw the cat amongst the pigeons! If you, (anybody reading this), had to choose one Pentax auto focus lens – which one would it be?On another thread, a couple of comments in the UK’s Amateur Photographer magazine recently have suggested Pentax are pulling out of 35 mm camera production. Anyone now anything about this – have I missed some news? Pat


10. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 09:44 PM Wednesday 12 January, 2005

Although all manufacturers of lenses make some excellent and very marginal glass, I cannot embrace Sigma, or any other third party manufacturer, as scoring all the time in all ranges. Each company will have their best and worst. Sigma in particular has significant coating problems, as to flare and reflection huritng what could be great color transmission. This detracts from otherwise advanced designs. It is reasonable to compare lenses and uses in given ranges of need, and then decide what suits. See http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm for up to date comparisons: tests gleaned from many users and reporters of given optical range gear. --Jay


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