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1. From : Philip Ashman (genesisphil@hotmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 05:19 PM Sunday 27 November, 2005

Thanks Ian for the suggestion and info, but I have in fact now taken the plunge and bought a 2nd hand, mint condition (boxed), Contax G2 Heritage Kit. This comprises of a G2 body, 28mm, 45mm & 90mm lenses, hoods & filters (Skylight 1b), plus TTL flashgun (TLA200) in a beautiful Heritage (Contax) holdall gadget bag. It came with a 12 month guarantee from the dealer and cost me £825. Looks like it has hardly been, if at all used, as the bag was still in a sealed package.

I had been unsure of buying a rangefinder that is autofocus and would personally have preferred a manual one (like Leica) but having read many reviews of the G2 decided I would give it a try. Indeed it seems that the results from these Carl Zeiss lenses match (in many peoples opinions and tests) those of the Leica system. Although some are put off by the autofocus noise (no worse than an SLR)it appears that a lot of previous Leica M owners, and current owners, now consider the Gontax G2 to be almost, if not as good, a system.When you bear in mind the cost difference, I believe it's best, as I have done, to give it a try and decide for yourself. Spent yesterday getting used to the feel and reading the manual and then went out with a roll of velvia 50 and shot off some pics down by the beach near my home. The autofocus is very quick and the viewfinder automatically changes dependent on the lens attached. It does have a manual focus setting (electronic) and whilst not a real substitute for the normal lens focussing ring and split image view with the Leica M, I did find it relatively easy to use with a bit of practice.

All in all, with the excellent shutter speed range and other 'SLR type' features you can set, together with a quiet vibration free shutter of a rangefinder etc..then it's good value for money. Of course at the end of the day it all boils down to the results you get from the images taken and if you, the photographer, are happy. Other peoples' opinions are then just academic, when you are purely an amateur and only have yourself to satisfy. This is not of course a replacement for my LX system, but will, for me, be a camera I can use pimarily for landscape and candid work, whereas my LX (and *istds)are used mainly for wildlife, especially macro, and creative/abstract photography. Phil


2. From : Ian (ian@ity.co.uk)
Url : http://
Date : 02:50 AM Saturday 26 November, 2005

Phil, regarding your rangefinder question - how about a Voightlander Bessa R-series body with a Pentax 43mm f/1.9 Special. The Special is the same as the Limited but with a 39mm LTM (Leica Thread Mount) instead of a standard Pentax K-mount. Although only sold in Japan, they seem readily available second-hand at around £200, which is great considering they were something like £700 new. I've even seen new ones at greatly reduced prices on amazon.co.jp. The Bessa R's are a well respected Leica-like. Then you could use the same lens with an Epson R-D1 digital body too. I believe there are adaptors for Pentax screw (Takumar) lenses to fit LTM. That would allow you to have a bundle of fun buying up quality Takumar glass, without losing any functionality with either of those bodies. And of course, use the same glass on your LX with stop-down metering occasionally. Just a thought - Ian.


3. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://www.nikkor.co.uk
Date : 11:28 PM Friday 25 November, 2005

I'll buy that 135mm 1.8 off you for £115 Anton...


4. From : AB (nuzzlemuff@fsmail.net)
Url : http://
Date : 05:35 AM Friday 25 November, 2005

Hi All

Yes the 750 has a focus assist light but all this seems to do is draw attention to itself (and the photographer), thus the scenario is worse with the light activated as not only does it still refuse to take a shot, it also illuminates the entire room with an orange glow just to make sure everybody sees you failing.

Seriously, the focus assist seems to make little if any difference. Metering is okay (it's just the focussing that's at fault) but my analogue Gossen can meter very much lower and is ergonomically vastly superior. The 750 cries out for a focus ring you can grab and twist when it won't play ball but instead you have to switch to manual focus (two button presses) and then press up and down to focus (and it does it in increments) it's almost impossible to judge focus on the small screen and even harder in low light (the very time you'll be using manual) so I end up guessing the distance in metres and setting it... 2005 and we're back to the earliest days of photography.

Use it within its limitations and it's fine (unfortunately you won't know its limitations until you've had it a while) but no way does it compare to a rangefinder.

AB

p.s. I don't think I have a melon, I read warnigs before I bought it but didn't think it would be quite this bad!


5. From : Mico (micolx@nestcape.net)
Url : http://
Date : 01:39 AM Friday 25 November, 2005

I`ve heard a couple of similar comments about 750Z (slow AF, no AF in low light) although no personal experience, so it seems to be a regular behaviour rather than "lemon" incident. M.


6. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 12:31 AM Friday 25 November, 2005

AB, There were two releases of the 750Z, which can be seen by user comments on, for example, Digital Photography Review, and Digital Camera. But your experience and comments are invaluable for avoiding user frustration and evaluation. So, it sounds like the Epson and Canon offerings in this stead will need closer scrutiny prior to taking the plunge, and that the Pentax is a total bomb. Is this so? I am curious, since it says it has a built in low light feature for low light focusing, if you may have a lemon. I would return it to Pentax for an evaluation, or, ensure that I was enacting this feature, to guarantee that these disappointing results were not for a reason. The camera too advertises itself as a reflective light meter for film camera use; it seems curious that if it were unable to function properly in low light, or available light, that such would be a claim to fame. Why would such a dysfunctional unit--as you describe it--even make it past testing?
--Jay


7. From : AB (nuzzlemuff@fsmail.net)
Url : http://
Date : 04:06 PM Thursday 24 November, 2005

If you're after a rangefinder I doubt the 750Z will satisfy. Focussing is hopeless as the light fades and manual focussing isn't easy. There are many manual overrides but they tend to be incremental rather than analogue. It's a completely different experience from even a Zorki 4K!! I use the 750 for eBay and various record shots, the quality is sufficient and the shots are free! Its refusal to focus at parties etc. (indoors - lowish light) is a major frustration. I feel like a total amateur, line people up, say cheese, and the camera can't focus. It won't even let me take an out of focus shot so I can pretend and save face. It just does nothing and I'm left looking like an idiot as they hold their smiles. In the end I have to give up.

If I had realised it was this bad early on I would have returned it as 'unfit for the purpose for which it was intended'. Pity, it ruins an otherwise okay camera.

AB


8. From : LXer (noname@nospam.com)
Url : http://nil
Date : 12:25 PM Thursday 24 November, 2005

I like the LX,that is why I came to this board. LX has a unique charactor of being a SLR camera. Pentax made many excellent SLRs over the years, but not many have such kind of uniqueness. Spotmatic, MX, ME Super are a few exmplaes. Funny, the Company seems lacked ideas.. and inventiveness (lately). Learnt many things from reading from all the gurus here too..


9. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 12:38 AM Thursday 24 November, 2005

I would look into the Pentax Optio 750Z if I was a rangefinder fan. The look, the feel, manual controls overrides, etc. Well reviewed zoom lens, etc. 7 MPixels. Not too expensive to boot. --Jay


10. From : Philp Ashman (genesisphil@hotmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 05:16 PM Wednesday 23 November, 2005

Thanks everyone for the detailed info and analysis of 'standard' Pentax lenses. Indeed I have been very happy with my M 1.7, but I am always on the lookout for new acquisitions and the 1.4 does seem most attractive. What I would love to get is a 'perspective shift' lens to use with my LX for architectural work, but have not yet seen one become available at a price I would be prepared to pay. One other question. I am thinking of getting another rangefinder to use as well as my SLR's, but as far as I am aware, Pentax did not do anything in this market? So far I have considered Leica (naturally) but again the cost is probably far too prohibitive, or the much cheaper Contax G2, but although this is deemed (from what I have read) to have really excellent lens optics with the G lenses, I am a bit put off by it being autofocus, as I have always preferred to manually focus on subjects. A bit of a dilemna on which way to go and maybe it would be worth me considering a move up to medium format in this area with the Mamiya 7(11)? Now that's a thought, although I would then be wanting a film scanner that would take this format's 6x7 film size!! Does it ever end?? LOL.

Phil


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