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1. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 11:19 PM Thursday 14 November, 2002

ChoeN - First make sure that you have film in the camera, and lens is attached, and setting on auto. Turn lens aperture to f/2.8 or widest f/stop setting. Put lens cap in place. Move film speed selector dial to 3200 ISO. Cock shutter by winding on, then release shutter. You should have heard the shutter curtains open. Wait for about 30 seconds, then remove lens cap and point lens at light. The shutter should now imediately close. If your shutter closes before you remove the lens cap then your particular LX body needs a visit to a Pentax repair specialist.


2. From : choeN (choen@notthisone.com)
Url : http://
Date : 08:49 AM Wednesday 13 November, 2002

Thanks Anton, it's simpler than I imagined :) OK, back to the topic of the LX bug at iso 3200. I've tested the camera set at auto at iso3200 with the body cap on, and the supposed long exposure is about 2 secs.


3. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 08:46 PM Monday 11 November, 2002

Choen - read No.16 & 17 in the LX Message Board Index for previous answers on how to fit/remove LX strap lugs.

Colleen - copies (and sometimes originals) of the Pentax MV1 manual and most other Pentax camera manuals & catalogues (in both paper & CD formats) can be bought on the Ebay.com (Ebay.co.uk) sites. Also look at rear ‘for sale’ sections of most major magazines. Another good idea is to use a search engine such as Yahoo.com then type the camera name (Pentax MV1 in your case) in the search box.

Mico - I think you are right about Pentax waiting for the field to develop before bringing a new camera on the market. They did this with the Pentax Super A – a superb body for its time, and incorporated a lot of the best things from the other major camera dealer’s cameras in one body.
Things are hotting-up as the train is speeding very fast in the digital ‘world’. A top-grade ‘latest’ camera can be made almost obsolete within one year (sometimes one month!) – so it is understandable that Pentax (along with some other companies) are treading lightly in the digital arena, and checking the waters depths by chucking cheaper consumer cameras into the fray first. Even though this maybe the case, I still think that Pentax needs to keep a pro-orientated camera established within their line. Many amateur photographers often enter a particular company’s folds simply because they aspire to one day owning those expensive ‘pro’ cameras (like I did once!), and so buy the cheaper/simpler bodies in the hope of slowly working their way up to the top model. I feel that the MZ-S body was not quite what the professional photographers who were already well established in the Pentax line of equipment were looking for. Both the Pentax 67 & 645 have had decent upgrades inline with keeping their established following from moving to other company brands. Pentax has not quite lived-up to this demand in the 35mm SLR. I cannot see Pentax now bringing out a ‘Pro’ grade 35mm film camera on the market because digital is set to take over very shortly, once pixel quality equals ‘Velvia-grade’ quality. I agree that the MZ-S digital body would now be obsolete against the newest Nikon/Canon/Contax offerings, but I do very much hope that when Pentax do eventually offer a pro-style digital body, it carries with it many of the best qualities held in the earlier LX and Z1p bodies. I know of many professional Pentax users being forced to switch to Canon or Nikon during the past 5-years, solely due to Pentax being so slow to upgrade their top-of-the-line bodies. Like Mico, Anton, and thousands of other photographers worldwide, I have nightmares at the thought of trying to sell my mountain of lenses, bodies, flashes and other Pentax equipment that has taken decades of scrimping & saving to buy – just so that I can re-buy everything in another company’s system! So come on Pentax…give us what we want!


4. From : Anton Browne (anton@antonbrowne.co.uk)
Url : http://
Date : 02:44 PM Monday 11 November, 2002

Strap attachment removal from the lug isn't easy to explain, it's easier to show or draw but I'll have a go. Look at the sides of the black rectangles that swivel on the lugs, you'll notice a kind of slot with a metal piece in it. look at the opposite side and you'll see the same slot with a split metal piece in it. Get a fairly fine screwdriver, steady the rectangle, be careful you don't damage the camera or your fingers if the screwdriver slips. You need to push the split metal piece further into the slot on the rectangular attachment. A corresponding amount will emerge on the opposite side and the rectangle will come off the lug. To re-attach, put the rectangle back on the lug and with the flat of the screwdriver push the protruding tab back into the slot. Make sure it's well in and secure or it can come off and the camera will fall. Good luck Anton


5. From : Mico (micolx@netscape.net)
Url : http://
Date : 01:08 PM Monday 11 November, 2002

I`ve just got one of my LX cameras from service, because it jammed one montah ago - my first mechanical problem with LX EVER, in more than 15 years. But, that body also had the same problem I`ve mentioned many times before on this mesage board, and the one that bothers Anton right now - erratic exposure on AUTO. From my experience, I decided NOT to mention that to Pentax technicians since camera was fine at that moment, which means one of that periods when everything seems to be O.K. - but is not in a long run. So, everything other that jammed winding mechanism was fit, including 100% reliable and precise meter readings on both AUTO and Manual mode, and was waiting to see what they would "discover" about electronic systems. And, this is the list of repairs performed on my camera:

Repaired Shutter mechanism
Repaired Winding mechanism
Repaired Mirror Action mechanism
Adjusted Winding mechanism
REPLACED ELECTRONIC SYSTEM (?)
REPAIRED CIRCUIT BOARD ................ so, there was something beside mechanic! But, WHAT?? That will remain the mystery for me, since LX goes on bench during repair, and every single part is dismantled, checked and returned back or replaced. That is the procedure, and it seems that nobody is able to solve the puzzle about that specific and annoying behaviour. Of course, erratic exposure problem does not exist on my camera any more. For how long - we will see... And about "phantom" light entering the LX`s during exposure, reflections causing shutter to close on high film sensitivity, etc. - I performed a lot of tests on this problem with the bayonet body cap (100% light- proof) on the camera and ISO 25 sensitivity, among others. So, no lens, no way for light to sneek inside, AUTO mode, and shutter would fire something betwen 1/2000 and 1/250. That was something deep inside LX`brain... You all know that at this setting, LX should keep the shutter open for at least 100 seconds. Problem is there, call it "bug", as I preffer, or whatever, and I still do not understand much about it`s nature... Mico


6. From : Mico (micolx@nestcape.net)
Url : http://
Date : 12:31 PM Monday 11 November, 2002

Comment on Globetrotter`s view on Digital MZ-S; "Pentax" hoped to sell the digital version of MZ-S for about 7-8.000 US at the time. That was too much, even for Canon and Nikon two years ago, with a lot of photographers hesitating to enter the expensive digital world with their own money. 8MP resolution and full frame sensor would not help much at that moment, regarding the price. Remember those people spending 10-12.ooo US for Nikon-Kodak digital cameras, just a few years ago? Now those cameras are completelu comic regarding speed, resolution and size. And even worse, they worth nothing! I can not wait to see decent Digital SLR from Pentax, since I do not want to change the whole system because of digital photography - but I think that was a smart move at the time. Market research showed that Digital MZ-S would not have been a big seller for Pentax. Pentax, as a company, is 10 times smaler than Nikon and Canon, and only one big comercial mistake could cost them a fortune, maybe even a name. And time is coming for digital, so I hope that Pentax will do something about this in the coming future.
LX upgrade - sounds like lost Atlantis, but who knows... Mico


7. From : Colleen (CAJS1961@AOL.COM)
Url : http://
Date : 09:23 AM Sunday 10 November, 2002

Hello: I was hoping that someone may guide me to where I can find out information on my camera that I just bought today. Pentax MV 1 Having owned a Canon AE most of my life. I couldnt pass up the deal I got with this Pentax. I spent a great deal of time trying to find where I can locate a manual for this camera or any other information I could use on the internet and ran in to a block wall. Again Thank you very much for any one who is willing to help me out. Colleen from Sacramento CA


8. From : choeN (choen@fearofspamdoesntexist.com)
Url : http://
Date : 09:05 AM Sunday 10 November, 2002

Goodness sake, and I just paid for one of these so called night light champions... My unit suffers from the common sticky mirror...:( Really would like to know how to remove the strap lug, please please please...


9. From : Anton Browne (anton@antonbrowne.co.uk)
Url : http://
Date : 09:18 PM Saturday 09 November, 2002

Hello Globetrotter

Yes tis I of the 50 1.2 A, now happilly using 135 1.8 A* along with The 85 1.4 A* these three prove ideal. I use a monopod and 3200/1600 film but I'm still wide open and around 1/30th. I was at first dismayed to discover this bahaviour in other bodies as I thought I had a rouge. My tech (Harrow Technical) fully understands the problem (though not its cause) and I have been there with him as we test the camera on his equipment. He has been completely through the camera and then passed it to a colleague - no joy.

In a way now, I'm relieved to find that most if not all bodies display this behaviour as I can put the business to rest and learn how best to work round it. I currently use the camera on manual with fast films - luckily the light is at least steady if very poor.

I am going to pay a visit to Pentax UK with the camera because they are starting to deny that there's an problem and won't countanace a refund. I sent them the camera to have a very specific problem fixed and my description was full and thorough The behaviour is easily repeatable and demostratable and I wonder what they will say when I put on: 'The LX Erratic Shutter Show'?1?

All the best
Anton


10. From : Jorge Nunez (jnunez4@optonline.net)
Url : http://
Date : 10:54 AM Saturday 09 November, 2002

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know of a website, or websites, where LX photography is displayed. Would help in furthering art and technique. i'm sure
users would apreciate seeing results from this great camera.

tnx
Jorge


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