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Industry wide indications and ceasing film body development by Pentax altogether in early 2003 more than suggest the manual focus Pentax LX will not be having an upgrade (except, perhaps for very rare Limited Edition Models hand assembled by special commission by the new HoyaPentax Corporation). In 2008 Pentax became a division of Hoya Corporation, which had together with Pentax released jointly developed professional grade optics (since 2005); Pentax has shifted its attention to development of auto focus Digital SLRs having build qualities constructed for the long run--now with weather seals--like the LX. You may use this site for common support and sharing of mutual users knowledge or experiences among yourselves. You may also use this message board as a guestbook for the advanced users Pentax SLR cameras from the LX forward, including many such auto focus film cameras, and Pentax digital SLR cameras. We keep the site going too for the WORD SEARCH FEATURE found here as to its magnificent K mount system user archives: as have been shared here for many years. Have an inquiry related to Pentax gear? First try KEYING IN YOUR KEY WORD(S) for a preexisting archived response on your subject of inquiry from this LX site. If your inquiry or sharing is from advanced users K10D, K20D, or K200D SLR needs, proceed on to t NEW PENTAX ADVANCED USERS K10D, K20D SLR site.

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1. From : AB (handmaid@fsmail.net)
Url : http://
Date : 10:00 AM Thursday 30 September, 2004

Hey Ian... .co.uk, shouldn't that be humour...?

AB


2. From : Ian (ian@ity.co.uk)
Url : http://
Date : 07:23 AM Thursday 30 September, 2004

LOL!


3. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 05:58 AM Thursday 30 September, 2004

I wonder if Mico has been kidnapped covering the news in the divided Balkans? Where is the Mico hypertech LXII plan? Our stock will fall and we will all be sent to prison for fraud unless Mico contributes, after all, his name is on the "maintainers" corporate ID. I think all this is a Singapore government plot. --jay


4. From : Ian (ian@ity.co.uk)
Url : http://
Date : 01:53 AM Thursday 30 September, 2004

Nice to see we have humor back on the board. Actually, I looked at my posting and had a giggle, but that doesn't let you off the hook AB, they're all perfectly viable techs. But I did forget the most important thing, other than the DVD (damn!) - and this one is important - knobs and switches! And I don't mean a network switch! Although... come to think of it... NAH! But seriously, if Pentax haven't had a proper (our kind of proper) LXII film camera on the board for a few years now, I sadly can't see it happening. Here's hoping I'm wrong. - Ian.


5. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrottterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://globetrotterworld.co.uk
Date : 06:52 PM Wednesday 29 September, 2004

...DVD 3D "Live-Screen" virtual reality image display and instructions on 'how to use LX2'- so that anyone (even AB) can understand how to use it!


6. From : AB (handmaid@fsmail.net)
Url : http://
Date : 02:39 PM Wednesday 29 September, 2004

My God! You guys are leaving me way behind - I don't understand half of this.

AB


7. From : Ian (ian@ity.co.uk)
Url : http://
Date : 09:52 AM Wednesday 29 September, 2004

LXII

1, 35mm SLR with either a, DigiBack or b, unified platform with separate film and digital versions - a la F6/D2X.
2, Major similarities in layout and look-feel to original LX.
3, Very high build quality, incorporating impressive (and standard setting) weather sealing.
4, Automatic exposure deep into ultra LT (IDM with reciprocity failure compensation).
5, Spot meter switch coupled to memory (AE-lock).
6, Component level accessories (Motor drive, removable pentaprism a la original LX)

Possable details (digital):

1, Upgradable full frame 35mm CCD/CMOS/Foveon a la Kodak
2, IEEE1394 Firewire interface.
3, Wi-Fi (802.11~).
4, Bluetooth, to include software for all major phones and iBooks. Remote control the LXII from your phone.
5, Apache web server, deliver http via Wi-Fi. Grab your images with any Wi-Fi web browser instead of bespoke software.
6, SSH access, lock down your LXII. Access only via your super secure UNIX iBook. Super-low-overhead, nip into your LXII with confidence.

More later - Ian


8. From : Jay (ibcom@onebox.com)
Url : http://
Date : 02:07 PM Tuesday 28 September, 2004

Robert, All necessary information available in the viewfinder would logically be via an LCD backlite, or like visible out of immediate imaging view information area in the viewfinder. This would be about what is set on the camera, attached working lens stats, and active symbols dedicated to such an information intention. One could quickly see all that is active and/or set by such a tightly boundaried representation. All information would also be in the same eye focal plane. It is far easier to see shutter speeds and apertures posted as such in close proximity than to shift the eye off such a scale of numbers, and symbols over to an optical aperture indicator. And such an indicator would not cover the newer DA series or the like at all. Though I have appreciated the feature in the LX and MX series, it is too materially literal as to what has improved in viewfinder information design capacity. Eye erognomics have improved with newer infomation representations in newer autofocus SLR viewfinders over earlier designs. It is as with the MZ-S, ZX, or ZL series, yet would be appreciated indeed by offering such for all and any lenses ever made in the K mount.

Other manufacturers of K mount camera bodies later in the 1980s were able to pull complete lens stats information from the levers and electrical contacts of the A series. Chinon (Kodak) was able to pull all information without the contacts. It is possible to do so, if compassionately included in the design.
--Jay


9. From : GLOBETROTTER (globetrotterworld@hotmail.com)
Url : http://globetrotterworld.co.uk
Date : 08:09 PM Monday 27 September, 2004

UK.

Pentax SLR Future…

A total update of the Pentax LX is what is needed – as a film-based camera, hybrid digital/film camera or full digital.
As I am mainly still film-based, I’d prefer it to be film like the LX, but some way of the body being one for the ‘future of photography’ and not one of the past, is a must so that it remains competitive in today’s market.
By being competitive, I do not mean lowing quality standards by adding oodles of plastic parts or cheaply made weak items to make up the body.
Changeable backs for both digital or film would be great. It is no good making just a 6mg or 12mg camera if that camera is going to be obsolete 12-months down the line. A way of fitting a future upgraded back with higher pixel rating or resolution/quality upgrading without needing to unload last year’s new camera body in the dumpster.
If it is not to be a digital body but only film-based (as Nikon F6), then that camera body must be bi-designed so that Pentax could use the basic body parts to incorporate it in a similar digital body so as to cut down on future costs. This would also make it simpler for Pentax users to switch or upgrade to the newer models.

My 30 wishes for the future legendary PENTAX LX2:

1) Watertight or weather sealed and shock-proof body - of a similar size (or only slightly bigger) to original LX, but with inbuilt motordrive of at least 5-frames per second -(or clip-on motordrive vertical grip with weatherproof sealing).
2) Maintain both manual rewind crank and wind-on film lever.
3) Takes both Lithium and AA batteries. Also takes a rechargeable pack that simply plugs direct into a home wall socket.
4) Hybrid mechanical/electronic shutter similar to original LX.
5) Solid metal bayonet mount with full compatibility in all metering modes (Average, Segment, Spot) when used with SMC-A, F, FA and all future lenses - Also able to Spot & Average meter with older SMC-K or SMC-M lenses.
6) 100% Full-frame viewfinder.
7) High eye-point interchangeable prism with weatherproof seals and solid fixings without ‘wobble’.
8) Prism 2 with overhead 180 degree viewing - (similar to original FC1 eyepiece but with a much brighter viewfinder image and built-in adjustable magnified image eyepiece with dioptre correction).
9) ‘Upgraded’ behind the mirror IDM metering similar to original LX, and maintains low level minus–6.5 EV (or even lower if possible) sensitivity for low light level/night photography up to 2 minutes or longer.
10) Switch on camera body to change normal viewfinder screen to Grid screen (similar to Nikon F80).
11) Mechanical Mirror lock-up with full metering after mirror has flipped up (similar to original LX).
12) Also electronic mirror lock-up combined with self-timer mode (similar to Z1-p) – with adjustable number of exposures taken, and built-in Interval Timer.
13) Remote radio or infrared with handset that can fire shutter with button press, and also works in ‘trap-focus’ mode for remote wildlife photography.
14) Metering mode, Aperture, Shutter Speed, Frame Counter, In-focus indicator, Focus point indicators, shown in bright-image viewfinder. (Off switch for focus-point indicators). Other User options light up in viewfinder if in use, such as Multiple Exposure, etc.
15) Normal high-eyepoint viewfinder also has solid-made pop-up flash with rubber seals to keep it weather sealed. (This is mainly to allow fill-flash or ‘catch-light in eyes’ capability when you don’t need extra weight and power of larger external flashgun).
16) Hotshoe flash foot (lockable) with off-camera cordless remote TTL compatibility at all ranges, including Macro at all ranges of shutter speeds (or at least upper level sync speed of 250th), plus slow-speed TTL sync.
17) In-viewfinder TTL flash meter reading display.
18) Show film type and ISO in use after film is loaded in camera (if in film mode and not digital).
19) Finger/Hand grip on body (larger than original LX grip), and also vertical grip with second (lockable) shutter release button and extra controls.
20) VR/IS image stabilizer option built into LX2 body so works with all Pentax lenses past & future.
High pixel colour image screen on camera back that shows image taken and allows part-frame enlargement on-screen to give some idea of image sharpness (off-switch when not needed to save battery consumption).
21) Miniature solar-power cells in prism top, to act as emergency for metering and electronic functions when working for long periods in harsh environments far from civilisation.
22) Self-cleaning dust remover on digital sensor.
23) Mini-download cable and pack (weatherproof and shock-proof) – capable of quickly downloading up to 1,000 high-resolution Tiff photos onto pocket-size portable disc drive, so as to maintain free memory space on LX2 body when working for long periods in the field.
24) Secondary solid tripod mount screw thread fitted into side of LX body for easy change to vertical shots when lenses without tripod mounts are used on a tripod.
25) Vertical lugs (similar to LX) to attach strap or hand grip vertically.
26) Single-pin junction for electronic release, but also maintain screw thread in shutter release (as LX) for simple and cheap optional use of normal threaded cable release.
27) Screw-on add-on accessories to make important controls larger when camera is used in cold weather with gloves on.
28) Completely dampened mirror/shutter mechanisms.
29) User-adjustable custom settings and configurations (similar to Z1-P), plus ability to add new extra settings via cable connection to PC-laptop computer.
30) Almost ‘silent’ shutter operation and motordrive operations.


10. From : AB (handmaid@fsmail.net)
Url : http://
Date : 06:58 AM Monday 27 September, 2004

London, U.K. is mine.

The only experience I've had with a digital SLR is with a friend's Canon - the fairly recent (in digital terms) low-end model. The viewfinder didn't seem to be designed for composition, the image was quite small with a fairly large blank, black surround... why? It was quite dim, though the slow zoom lens didn't help. It had a number of distractions like auto focus markings on the screen and the plethora of buttons and options was bewildered me. I'm sure you get used to some of this. I like the idea of photography being about composition, exposure film/lens choice etc. adds to this; I don't know how much more I need.

What I'd like then is a Pentax that adheres to their history of good straightforward ergonomic design with a bit of class - a digital for the analogue lovers. Could this be a niche?

AB


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