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Religious Thai Amulets are immensely popular among many Thai locals or even the Chinese that residing in South East Asia - probably most followers never have the chance to worship the religion and hopefully with the little image that we wear on the body can provide some form of relief. As I mentioned in the site, probably it takes a Thai to create such a high quality website features specifically on these lovely collective pendants. As I can never be claimed knowledgeable in this strong thai traditions but since I am a web developer in nature, I create this solely for personal consumption and hope to provide a linkage among all passionate collectors. Some of the opinion presented within the site was entirely personal and I do not wish to influence any decision prior to any potential purchases or disposal. So, this forum is intended to provide a channel for all to make use of it to present your own individual views. Enjoy.

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51. From : jack liew (jackliew@gmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 05:18 AM Wednesday 25 January, 2012

Greetings. Been doing some business in Thailand since last year. Recently, a Thai friend gave me a somdej amulet which was part of his father's collection.
I was wondering if you guys can help me find out more about this amulet and its history.

Thank you.

Regards,

jack


52. From : Pakpoom (pakpoomval@gmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 11:18 PM Sunday 08 January, 2012

03:29 AM Tuesday 27 January, 2009
http://
Hello, first of all, Happy New Year to all. May i know from who can i get a good Phra Kring amulet in Singapore with blessings from a high monk? Thanks in advance. - Sebby


Sorry this response is somewhat late. I don't know where you can get these in Singapore. However, I can help furbish you with general information on Phra Kring. Actually, I think it is more accurate to spell it as Phra Gring as Gring means bell. Phra Gring have a small metal pellet inside the buddha amulet and when you shake the amulet, it rings like a bell.

Phra Gring is a belief of the Mahayana buddhism and therefore spreaded out since over a thousand years ago from India towards Tibet, China, Korea, and Japan. The Mahayana buddhists believe that every time you ring the bell (shake the buddha amulet), you are praying a verse. There are other forms of this gesture such as a spin of the Thammajak wheel common in Tibet and China.

History

Khmer (Cambodia) had ruled over Thailand some 800 years back under King Phra Chao Chaiworamun VII who was a Mahayana buddhist. Lopburi is a province in modern day Thailand which the Cambodian King had used as the its capital city for ruling over Thailand. Because prior Cambodian kings believed in the Brahman (Hinduism), Lopburi as well as Nakorn Wat (Angkor Wat, Angkor Thom, Phanom Bakeng) all had influences of both Mahayana buddhism and Brahman influences in their art and religions.

The Cambodian King Phra Chao Chaiworamun VII was defeated by Por Khoon Bang Glang Hao (sometimes spelled Thao) who became the first King of Thailand (formerly Siam) and known (ranked) as Khoon Sri Intrathit. This began the Phra Ruang dynasty and Khoon Sri Intrathit was King Phra Ruang I. His grandson, Por Khoon Rarmkhamhaeng later became King Phra Ruang III and converted buddhism in Thailand to Theravada buddhism when he brought in monks and practices from Sri Lanka which was the center of Theravada buddhism.

Phra Gring

Phra Gring are separated into Phra Gring Norg and Phra Gring Nai. Norg literally means "outside" or foreign. Nai means inside or local. Put simply, Phra Gring made in Thailand and outside of Thailand.

Phra Gring Norg (foreign) include:
Phra Gring Jeen Yai. (Jeen = Chinese; Yai = large)
Phra Gring Tee Ong.
Phra Gring Bakeng. (It's found at Phanom Bakeng next to Angkor Wat in Cambodia but were made in China and dates back to around the Tang dynasty circa 1200 years ago).
Phra Gring Norngsae.
Phra Gring Takataen. (Takataen = grasshopper)

Phra Gring Norg namely Jeen Yai, Tee Ong, Bakeng, Norngsae are made during the Tang dynasty in China around 1200 years ago.

Pra Gring Tee Ong do not have the "gring" or bell but they were bundled as Phra Gring as they were made in the same era probably by the same craftsmen.

Phra Gring Takataen were made during the reign of Cambodian King Phra Chao Chaiwaramun VII around 800 years ago in Angkor Wat Cambodia. The Thai locals saw some semblance to a grasshopper and therefore named it Phra Gring Takataen.

I also own a very rare Phra Gring Guan Yin -- Avalokitesvara (Bhodhisattva). The art looks Chinese but probably about 800 years old by the rusting and the art (late Song dynasty). But I don't recommend collecting buddha amulets that are individualistic in prints. The strange thing about buddha amulets is that if they are too rare (individualistic), then there is no comparison and therefore no price reference.

Phra Gring Nai (local) are simply Gaji** Archarn buddha amulets and they include:
Phra Gring Wat Suthat: Somdej Pear, Archarn Son
Phra Gring Wat Boworn: Phra Gring Porwarej, Phra Gring Paireepinart
Phra Gring Wat Chetuphon or Wat Pho: Phra Gring Paramanuchit.
--- there are many others under differing Gaji Archarns.

The Supreme Patriarch of Thailand over the past 100 years have mostly resided in either Wat Boworn, Wat Chetuphon, and Wat Suthat. So these are one of the most important temples (Wat) in the Radanakosin era (the Rama dynasty). Tradionally, Wat Boworn have been a strict Theravada buddhism disciple and Wat Suthat Mahayana buddhism. Theravada originally were those who believed in the strictest interpretation of the teachings of the Lord Buddha and believed that prayer verses are kept in the original Pali language. Mahayana prayer scriptures were in a slightly newer language Sanskrit and the original disciples basically wanted to relax the rules a bit to gain more acceptance. Today, in my humble view, Mahayana versus Theravada is a bit like Conservative and Neoconservative in politics.

** Phra Gaji are basically buddha amulets that have been made in the last 100 years give or take. Nothing definitive about the number 100. Gaji essentially refers to famous monks (Phra Archarn) that made them.

Phra Gru Qualifies as antiques and their age range from about 1300 years (Hiripunchai era: Phrar Rord, Phra Kong, Phra Liang, Phra Luer, Phra Luerkhong to name a few) to 140 years (Phra Somdej Bangkhunprom, Phra Somdej Pilun Wat Rakang to name a few). Gru simply means they are stored in a stupa or a Jedi. Through hundreds of years of heat and dampness the buddhas are practically re-baked and therefore 100% of them have calcium deposits of some sort and/or rust in case of metal-based amulets. These are also critical features we use to identify their authenticity.

Pakpoom


53. From : Pakpoom (pakpoomval@gmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 07:11 PM Sunday 08 January, 2012

In reference to posting:
10. From : Lau (hllau9@gmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 12:49 PM Tuesday 28 June, 2011

Subject: Phra Khoonpaen Klueb Wat Yai Chaimongkol.


Hi Mr. Lau

Firstly Thai buddha amulets are broadly categorized into two groups: 1. Phra Gaji (pronounced gay-ji); and, 2. Phra Gru.

Phra Gaji are basically buddha amulets that have been made in the last 100 years give or take. Nothing definitive about the number 100. Gaji essentially refers to famous monks (Phra Archarn) that made them. The pix of your Khoonpaen 1 are clearly Gaji. A lot of monks make these and some of them (authentic ones) are valuable and many are not of much value. I disclaim that I am not a Gaji collector and so I can't help you specifically with the pix of KP1.

Phra Gru Qualifies as antiques and their age range from about 1300 years (Hiripunchai era: Phrar Rord, Phra Kong, Phra Liang, Phra Luer, Phra Luerkhong to name a few) to 140 years (Phra Somdej Bangkhunprom, Phra Somdej Pilun Wat Rakang to name a few). Gru simply means they are stored in a stupa or a Jedi. Through hundreds of years of heat and dampness the buddhas are practically re-baked and therefore 100% of them have calcium deposits of some sort and/or rust in case of metal-based amulets. These are also critical features we use to identify their authenticity.

Your pix of KP2 and if it came with the label of having been made 400 years ago then looks inauthentic (to me). It is always difficult to authenticate amulets from pictures but some are obvious. In this case it's obvious due to its inaccuracy of prints as well as other details. [That having said there are many Gaji Archarns (monks) who make replica of the original Khoonpaen Klueb blocks and do not try to disguise it as the original but instead market them as thier own. That's a different matter.] There are a few prints of Khoonpaen amulets from Wat Yaichaimongkol in Ayudhaya province. Only two prints are "Klueb" which simply means enamel. I attach a photo from a book of an authentic Khoonpaen Klueb Pim Yai (Pim Yai means big print).

Just FYI, I have waited for many years and still don't own a Khoonpaen Klueb yet. But I am a finicky collector and will only collect top quality prints. In the market we tend to rate it by 70%, 80%, 90%, 95% and so on. It's just like grading them as A B C and so on. So for a Khoonpaen Klueb Pim Yai, price would probably correlate to Bt3 million for 80% and Bt5 million for 90%.

There are alternatives to the same Wat Yaichaimongkol Gru of Khoonpaen but they are not enameled: Khoonpaen Bai Putsar (Bt50,000 - Bt120,000 depending on quality). And from the same era but a different Gru is Khoonpaen Wat Ban Grang in Suphanburi province (Bt50,000 - Bt1,000,000 depending on print and quality). Huge variance! This indicates a very premia for perfection and price curves are typically exponential.

These Khoonpaen amulets are made in commemoration of King Naresuan after a war that defeated the Burmese King.

I hope this helps.

Pakpoom


54. From : Poh (P_I_Lim@hotmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 03:50 PM Thursday 05 January, 2012

Hi,

I was just wondering if the Thai Amulets can really protect the wearer against black magic or evil. Even if when substance is consumed?


55. From : Hun Yew (hunyew@hotmail.com)
Url :
Date : 11:33 PM Tuesday 13 December, 2011

Can anybody please help me identified this Somdej amulet?

http://s1101.photobucket.com/albums/g421/hunyew/?action=view┬Ąt=09122011321.jpg



56. From : Peterson (ariyasilartgallery@gmail.com)
Url : www.ariyasilart.in.th
Date : 02:27 PM Tuesday 06 December, 2011

I would like to introduce my website: www.ariyasilart.in.th

Thank you and best regards,
Peterson Soh


57. From : Jimmy chin (bbdlk03@gmail.com)
Url : http://www.facebook.com-jimmy Ccm
Date : 05:30 PM Sunday 13 November, 2011

Suk Pan Phu Ri - Wat Kaw Ting Salak. Buddha amulet. BE 2352 ( 203years old). Rent1 for RM139 with tambun temple. Last 50pcs only. This amulet Good for Safety, metta, wealth and prosperity

这枚佛牌能帮助您在做事或做生意都能顺心得意,
他能增加你在处事有更多贵人辅助您,减少小人的陷害
佛牌價格/Price:PM
Jimym chin 013-2935999 / 0111-5399288
郵寄收費/Postage:Malaysia 包郵寄.


58. From : martin/eed (bangkok@xs4all.nl)
Url : http://
Date : 06:46 PM Thursday 10 November, 2011

Hi myn wife is thai we live in the Nethereland we miss you, but the sution is verry bad in Europe about the Euro everthing is expencif now even the air line tickets.
But we will come quikly nect year to you again,Myn name is Martin i al;ways feel relaxed when i visit the tempel.
Thank for reading.
Martin and Eed


59. From : Lee (noname@gmail.com)
Url : http://
Date : 08:11 PM Saturday 29 October, 2011

LP Nguen, the abbot of Wat Nong Lao, Maha Sarakham, Thailand is visiting Malaysia until 2 NOV 2011.

For all believers, please do not miss the opportunity to get LP's blessing

Directions as follows-
Opposite LDP of Tesco Puchong is a row of shoplots.
Look out for Kuenz Sidewalk Cafe (a mamak stall) which is in the middle of the back row, facing Setia Walk show unit/office.
LP Nguen is on the 1st floor on top of Kuenz Cafe.

Google Maps - 3.034792,101.617865 - Google Maps

GPS- 3.034792,101.617865

For additional details, please contact Shirley at 012 209 3646.

May all believers get blessing from LP directly. Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu!!

Photo of LP Nguen - https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-oqiPG7KOEwM/TWcc3ExsE9I/AAAAAAAAd4Y/6z9D5-k-In0/s512/LP%252520NGUEN%252520PHOTO%252520WITH%252520YANT%2525202553.jpg



60. From : leng teck chiang (lengteckchiang@yahoo.com)
Url : http://
Date : 01:34 AM Friday 21 October, 2011

i have the 4th batch with g phra certification. if u want the picture to share i am willing to give. i personally like this piece as i can see 2 small fragments of 1-3 batch in the picture. hard to see with naked eye but through picture and high powered magnifying glass u can see it. no gems though. i also has a 6th batch that won 3rd prize in a competition. also willing to share the picture is u want it. 6th batch also has this nickname. It was said that when the temple began to sell these Phra Wat Paknam amulets (6th Version) to the public many people crowded at the temple to gain ones of the amulets but in the crush some were killed in the ensuing chaos and stampede. Therefore the amulets were also called "Yiapkuntai amulets".

(The Thai words Yiapkuntai means someone was killed by someone else unintentionally in a stampede.)

from my knowledge 4th batch Amulets are made of several kinds of materials as follows:

1.Shells
2. Bananas
3.Flowers
4.Old Luang Phor Sod Version I - III amulets
5.Gems
6.Luang Phor Sod's hairs
7.Tang Yow oil

also lp sod teaching of how to use buddha wat paknam amulets. the owner should gaze at the amulet and remember it, and then place that imaginative image at the body's center while recite SAMMAARAHANG continuously.

Focus your mind at the center of the image. Just stop your mind right there, then dive deeper and deeper in the center point, never turn back. Finally, the image will automatically be changed to be a crystal-like Buddha, then focus your mind at the body's center of the Buddha. The sparkling Buddha will finally appear.

At this stage, you breathe slightly and slowly. Now you can pray or beg for everything you wish from the Lord Buddha. This is the most effective way to beg for his help. You will sooner or later get what you wish.

i hope this helps more wat paknam owners. i am from kuching,sarawak.malaysia.

i also share this knowledge. Luang Phor Wat PakNam created 3 batches of amulets. The first batch in B.E.2493, approximately 40 % brushed with lacquer and 60 % are plain surface ; the second batch in B.E.2494, the same molds as the 1st batch, all amulets brushed with lacquer; and the third batch in B.E.2499, using both old and new molds. Because it's very difficult to differentiate the lacquer-brushed amulets between the 1st and 2nd batches, so all lacquer-brushed amulets are assumed as the 1st batch.


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